Thursday, August 31, 2006

David Cole

Contrary to what some people believe, David Cole was indeed coerced into "repentance" by JDL:
When Rubin put the “hit” on me, I realized I had to get out. In the end, regardless of my love of history, I didn’t want to die. It was just that simple. And that’s what happens when violence and intimidation, or the threat of prosecution, like in Europe and Canada, are introduced into a debate. Anyone who has anything to lose shuts the hell up, or gets the hell out.
Well, that was quite obvious, since his statement contains a tongue-in-cheek mention of Lucy Dawidowicz's book, with her absolutely ridiculous, crazy, irresponsibe death toll for Majdanek, the camp in which Cole was particularly interested. It is recommended as the book to get the "correct" details from.

However, I wonder where one can find this interview?

Tuesday, August 29, 2006

The Soviets went over the top in their lies …

... when making a film documentary about Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp.

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Or so Mr. Ugly Voice tells us in episode 19 [YouTube version] of his video filth, after claiming that the Soviets could never produce any documentation like the German investigation reports on the Soviet NKVD’s massacres at Katyn and Vinnitsya (see my article Shooting Mattogno in the foot … for the discussion of this claim and other trash contained in said episode 19).

His example of “over the top” Soviet “lies” about Auschwitz is a clip from a film documentary about the 1961 Eichmann trial in Jerusalem, showing the projection of a “a film of Auschwitz taken by the Soviet Union”, in which the Soviets supposedly went “over the top in their lies, with tattoos that look like they are drawn on rice paper rather than on human skin, but also, because here in the film is a bucket of human heads, with people in some kind of pillory thing over here, as if the Germans would just leave this when they evacuated”.

Actually it is unlikely – to say the least – that any of what Mr. Ugly Voice makes a fuss about was actually stated in the film to be a scene from the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration and extermination camp.

The artifacts stated to be tattooed samples of human skin were features not of Auschwitz, but of Buchenwald concentration camp, which was liberated by the Americans, not by the Soviets. Together with other exhibits, these skin samples were shown by the Americans to German civilians after the liberation of Buchenwald, and they were also the subject of the trial of Ilse Koch before an American military tribunal, during which a forensic report, prepared about three tattooed pieces of skin exhibited in the courtroom, stated the conclusion that these were indeed pieces of human skin. Documentary evidence related to the Nazi administration of Buchenwald concentration camp, namely this letter of 7 May 1942 sent by the SS local physician in Weimar to the director of pathology of Buchenwald concentration camp, prohibiting the further manufacture of “so called gift articles (shrunken heads, etc.)” and this instruction from SS headquarters in Oranienburg to the SS local physician of Weimar – Buchenwald to hand over 142 pieces of tattoos existing at Buchenwald, further corroborates the notion that such macabre “gift articles” were indeed manufactured at Buchenwald concentration camp, which in turn means that the exhibits looking “like they are drawn on rice paper” to Mr. Ugly Voice were not a lie let alone a Soviet lie related to Auschwitz.

As to the decapitated human bodies and the heads lying in a bucket beside them, similarity with some rather graphic photos of corpses lying in containers, which are shown here, suggests that the film image in question is related to the Soviet allegations of experiments in the manufacture of soap from human corpses conducted at the Danzig Anatomical Institute, which had been presented at the Nuremberg Trial of the Major War Criminals before the International Military Tribunal and supported by, among other evidence, the affidavits of Britsh POWs Neely and Witton. It is also possible, considering similarity with these very graphic images from a French investigation of crimes committed at Struthof/Natzweiler concentration camp in Alsace, that the image in question is related to a singularly macabre endeavor that Eichmann was accused of having been involved in, the making of an “anthropological” skeleton collection suggested to Himmler by SS-Hauptsturmführer Dr. August Hirt, head of the Anatomical Institute at Strasbourg University, for which the bodies of people killed at Natzweiler concentration camp in Alsace were used. If this should be the case, the Soviets had nothing whatsoever to do with the investigation of the events in question. The evidence to the Natzweiler killings – especially the documents and eyewitness testimonies referred to on pages 271 to 277 of Kogon/Langbein/Rückerl et al, Nationalsozialistische Massentötungen durch Giftgas – is also solid enough to leave no room for reasonable doubt that these killings actually took place.

If, on the other hand, the film image showing the bodies in a “pillory thing” and the heads in a bucket should be related to the experiments at the Danzig Anatomical Institute, the mentioned affidavits from British POWs may or not be conclusive in what concerns there having been an attempt to manufacture human soap rather than the mere use of maceration fat for cleaning purposes, but they are certainly conclusive in what concerns the presence and use of a considerable number of corpses at that institute, and therefore exclude dismissing the image of the decapitated bodies and the heads as a “Soviet lie”. It stands to any reason other than “Revisionist” coulda-shoulda-woulda thinking that a hasty flight of the Danzig Anatomical Institute’s staff before the Soviet troops, leaving behind some of the corpses in the institute, was not exactly out of the question – also considering that Danzig was not evacuated by the Germans, but captured after bitter street fighting by the Soviet army.

There is also no indication in the transcripts of the court sessions at the Eichmann Trial – where the screening of films was a major issue, requiring a court decision on the admissibility of these films as a means to illustrate the evidence and involving objections against the showing in court of certain parts of the films by Eichmann’s defense attorney Dr. Servatius, to whom the films had been shown before – that the scenes commented by Mr. Ugly Voice were related to Auschwitz or filmed by the Soviets. The following are excerpts from the trial records related to the description of the films’ contents and their screening; emphases are mine.

Session 54:

Attorney General: With the Court's permission, may I be permitted briefly to interrupt the submission of evidence on the question of Hungary, and to request the directives and the guidance of the Court in a matter which is to take place next week?
It is our intention to exhibit in Court a number of documentary films in order to illustrate certain events about which evidence had already been led, and other events on which evidence will be produced next week. Naturally we will ensure suitable authentication of the incidents contained in these films. We shall produce witnesses who will be asked to testify under oath that this is how matters looked in fact.
It seems to me that we have the right to present these films, but in view of the fact that it is not a daily or normal occurrence for films to be shown in a court-room, I thought it would be proper to ask the Court's guidance in this matter.
Presiding Judge: Is there a precedence for that?
Attorney General: Yes, Your Honour. Films were also exhibited at Nuremberg on several occasions. This was also the case in the Bergen-Belsen trial. These are two instances which I can recall at the moment, concerning this type of evidence. We sometimes make use of a film for another purpose, in order to identify a place, and so on. But this is not our purpose. Here the intention is to illustrate the events.
Presiding Judge: Were decisions given there - or was the matter simply taken for granted?
Attorney General: I believe that there was some objection, and it was decided that it had probative value and, on several occasions, the showing of films was allowed.
Presiding Judge: Perhaps you could show us where this appears in the reports.
Attorney General: Certainly. I think that it appears already in the early volumes.
Judge Halevi: What do the films contain?
Attorney General: One film is about Auschwitz after the liberation - showing the appearance of the survivors. One film which we will also show if we can manage to convert it from 35 mm to 16 mm, concerns the Warsaw Ghetto. I say "if we can manage" for there is a technical problem in bringing a 35 mm projector to the Court. If we cannot manage, we shall be obliged to forego the film because of this difficulty. There is one film dealing with the transport of Jews to Ravensbrueck. There is another one showing scenes of the Mauthausen camp.
Judge Halevi: Was the film of Mauthausen taken after the liberation or before?
Attorney General: There are scenes which were photographed at the time of the event. There is one scene, really apocalyptic, of thousands of people standing at a roll-call, naked, which was certainly shot at the precise moment when it took place. And there will be a witness who will testify that this is indeed what it looked like.
Judge Halevi: Where do these films come from?
Attorney General: From various sources. There are documentary films which were made by various institutions, immediately after the War. The film on Auschwitz has a Czech commentary. We will remove the sound - we do not need the Czech commentaries, but apparently this film is of Czech origin. There are films which were filmed jointly by Eastern and Western bodies, French and Polish, but these were private organizations, not official bodies. These films were taken immediately after the War. […]
Presiding Judge: Are there amongst these films such as have already been shown in those trials?
Attorney General: This, too, is not clear to us. According to the record of proceedings at Nuremberg, there was some authentication on behalf of the Allied military authorities at the beginning of the film. This authentication does not appear in the films in our possession, and hence we shall require a different method of authentication. There is also a film which the German television prepared towards this trial. It was shown in Germany and called "In the steps of the Hangman." It was featured on West German television on the occasion of the opening of this trial.
It is a film which we do not propose showing to the Court in its entirety, because it adopts a moralizing tone in order to arrive at certain conclusions and clearly it would not be proper for us to ask the Court to view all of it.
But it contains sections on the operations of the Einsatzgruppen, which were apparently filmed at the time they were taking place, and these, too, will be verified by witnesses. We shall extract this portion only and show it to the Court.


Session 68:

Presiding Judge: I declare the sixty-eighth Session of the trial open.
Decision No. 72
We confirm the request of the Attorney General and will permit the exhibition of films to illustrate the evidence of the Prosecution witnesses, on condition that the films will be sufficiently authenticated.
For reasons of security, because of the blacking-out of the hall during the screening, the public, with the exception of journalists, will not be permitted to be in the Courtroom at the time of the screening.


Session 70:

Attorney General: With the Court's permission, last night we screened the films - which the Court will now see - in the presence of representatives of the Prosecution, and in the presence of Dr. Servatius and nine identification witnesses. They are: Mrs. Salzberger, Mr. Hoch, Mr. Aviel, Mr. Melkman, Mr. Ben-Zvi, Mr. Bakon, Mrs. Kagan, Mr. Chen and Mr. Aharon Hoter-Yishai. As a result of the screening, Defence Counsel agreed that, indeed, each of the witnesses identified a portion of the pictures, and hence, in this way, the entire screening was authenticated. I understand that Defence Counsel does not insist that the oath be administered to these identifying witnesses, but they are present here, at the Court's disposal, should the Court desire further authentication from them or to put additional questions to them.
Presiding Judge: That means there will be no testimony...
Attorney General: There will be no evidence running with the screening. I shall announce before the screening of each section what is being shown. I have a record of proceedings here signed by Mr. Ya'akov Bar-Or, on the identification that took place yesterday. I am ready to submit it to the Court. Defence Counsel has received a copy of it.
Presiding Judge: Dr. Servatius, what do you have to observe on this?
Dr. Servatius: I have no comments in regard to the witnesses. The Attorney General will explain what the contents are. These contents have been summarized for me, and I have no objection - but I have some points which I ask the Court to note, and on which my reservations are based. Do I have permission to present them now?
Presiding Judge: First of all, you do not have any objection to the submission of the record of proceedings?
Dr. Servatius: No, I have no objection to the submission of this record of proceedings.
Presiding Judge: I am marking the record of proceedings with my initials, and the letter "A". You spoke about reservations - what kind of reservations will you have at a later stage? I should like to understand the meaning of this word "reservation".
Dr. Servatius: Your Honour, the Presiding Judge, I am referring to a possible reservation which I shall present, and the Court will understand it only if it is submitted in advance.
Presiding Judge: That means that the reservation is against the present screening itself, or how am I to understand it?
Dr. Servatius: No, the reservation will not be against the actual screening, but in respect of certain scenes and of the text.
Presiding Judge: Please continue.
Dr. Servatius: Firstly, we see the actions of an operational group - to that I have no objection. But, immediately thereafter, comes a scene of a pile of corpses, a burning pile. I have the feeling that this scene was prepared after the event, and, in this respect, the scene should have been examined. There is also a view there of a wooden wall marked with lines. What their significance is one cannot see, but it has been said here that these are the numbers of the victims who were killed by this unit. I would, therefore, request that the text be examined.
Presiding Judge: With regard to the first scene, are you arguing that the scene has been staged, that it is not a genuine one?
Dr. Servatius: No, it is a genuine scene, but I have the feeling that it was filmed after the liberation, when they continued the process of burning bodies. Subsequently, there is a scene showing decapitated bodies, and the heads in a separate receptacle. I assume that both the scenes of the corpses and those of the heads are genuine. But I have the impression that it was put together for the purpose of reports that were made. Thereafter, we are shown some rectangular objects, and it is said that this was soap made from these bodies. I request that, in this instance, too, the text be examined.
[…]
As far as the furnace is concerned, I do not know whether it was found in this condition, when there was still fire in it, or whether the fire was kindled in order to show how it looked when the fire was burning. I cannot give any explanation for it. At any rate, this furnace was identified.
Presiding Judge: Identified? Where was it?
Attorney General: In Auschwitz. Concerning the burying of the bodies, evidence will be brought on the subject, and we shall submit material which, in our opinion, will implicate the Accused in the matter of the skeletons in Strasbourg. We shall submit evidence proving the link between the Accused and that affair, and the pictures which were shown at Nuremberg on the same matter. The scenes that you will see here is needed only to substantiate the material evidence which you will receive tomorrow. If we do not succeed in submitting this material, I shall ask you to disregard these scenes. Incidentally, it is only a brief part of the film, and also not an important one.
[…]
[The film is shown]
Attorney General: So far, we have had the first section of the films. The second section consists of a number of fragments. Firstly, the train from Westerbork to Auschwitz. The surroundings have been identified as those of Westerbork. The commander of the camp has been identified.
The other scenes appearing in the rest of the film are: a view of Auschwitz, the plan of the camp, the installations, the women's living quarters, the stores, the stores for teeth, hair, women's articles, and items of clothing; a medical committee examining the victims of the experiments. The Court will also observe the barbed wire fences, the watch towers, and the electrified fences.
[The film is shown]
Attorney General: [giving explanations during the screening]
[A view of an SS officer amongst a group of people] This man in the centre has been identified as Gemecke, commander of the camp.
[A scene of a barrel being brought into a freight car from a cart full of barrels] This barrel was given to the prisoners for the purpose of relieving themselves en route.
[A scene of people seated in a large hall, mainly women and children] These pictures were taken immediately after the liberation.
These two below are "Stehbunker" (standing-up cells).
[A scene of people eating, two eating from one plate] These are pictures from the time of arrest.
These are toilets.
This is a wall for executing people in the notorious Block 11.
[People lying in bed] This is a hospital.
[A scene of a room in the clinic and various instruments]
Presiding Judge: What do you know about that?
Attorney General: These are the instruments for medical experiments. These are the interiors of cells. This is the burning of the bodies in the open, when the crematorium could not cope.
[A view of the camp covered in snow, people walking with haversacks and personal possessions] This is after the liberation by the Soviet army.
[A group of people in prisoner's garb pointing to an installation containing a door which opens downwards] This is Block 10, the punishment block.

[Heaps of spectacles, shoes, hair, and the like] This is what was discovered in the stores of Auschwitz after the liberation, false teeth, spectacles and other items.
[Bundles of coarse cloth]

Presiding Judge: What is that?
Attorney General: This is cloth made from hair, but we have no evidence as to its use - that is what the producer of the film surmised.
[An examination of people by a group of doctors] This is the examination of survivors by a medical team.

Attorney General: The next film will show various camps. First of all, the I.G. Farben camp and a visit there by Himmler.
Presiding Judge: The I.G. Farben camp - where?
Attorney General: In Buna, one of the sections of Auschwitz. As a consequence of the Defence Counsel's remarks, I understand that this item has been removed because some comment was made about it. The next scene will be Birkenau. Next, Mauthausen, and after that Strasbourg. This is how people were killed on the electrified barbed wire fences. This is the roll-call in Mauthausen. The people are standing there, naked.
Presiding Judge: Did you say that the last section was filmed in Strasbourg? Attorney General: There was the matter of the supply of one hundred and fifty skeletons to the Institute for Ancestral Research "Ahnenerbe". We shall prove the link with the Accused. Instead of supplying skeletons, he supplied living people whose skeletons served the institute.
Presiding Judge: Do you have evidence that this was filmed at Strasbourg?
Attorney General: There are pictures closely resembling those which were shown at Nuremberg. The next section deals with the camps in the American sector. It will show the United States forces entering the camps, General Eisenhower visiting the camps, the surviving remnants of all kinds. Presiding Judge: At what place was that taken?
Attorney General: At various places. There were scores of these. These are the huts that were set on fire at the time of the German retreat.
These are figures of Muselmenn about whom the Court has already heard. The German citizens were ordered to visit the camps and to see the atrocities with their own eyes. The next film is about Bergen-Belsen.[…]
I regret that it was necessary to subject the Court to such a harrowing experience. That is the end of the screening.


The above quotes, and especially the highlighted passages, show or at least suggest the following:

• The features of Auschwitz shown in the films screened in Session 70 did not include the scenes that Mr. Ugly Voice attributes to “a film of Auschwitz taken by the Soviet Union”;

• The samples of tattooed skin correspond to General Eisenhower’s visit to the camps liberated by the US Army and/or to forced viewings by German civilians of evidence to the atrocities committed at those camps;

• The dead bodies in the “pillory thing” are either from the Danzig Anatomical Institute or related to the killings at Natzweiler concentration camp for the purpose of Prof. Hirt’s skeleton collection at the Strasbourg University’s Anatomical Institute.

Add to this the above-mentioned evidence according to which it is very likely – to say the least – that the film sequences in question actually show what they purport to show, and nothing is left of Mr. Ugly Voice’s claim that the Soviets went “over the top in their lies” in a film they made about Auschwitz. The scenes that Mr. Ugly Voice makes a fuss about do not refer to Auschwitz, they are at least rather unlikely to be lies, the tattooed skin samples were obviously not filmed by the Soviets, and even the decapitated bodies and the heads in the bucket were not necessarily filmed by the Soviets either.

What we have here at best, therefore, is an erroneous description of the provenance and content of these film sequences by the narrator of the respective documentary about the Eichmann trial, whose statements Mr. Ugly Voice didn’t bother to check because i) he knows as much about Auschwitz and the other Nazi concentration camps as a pig does about Sunday and ii) they nicely served the fuss he intended to make about the Soviets having gone “over the top in their lies”.

I wouldn’t be surprised, however, if viewing said Eichmann trial documentary I were to find out that the link between Auschwitz and the film sequences in question was simply invented by Mr. Ugly Voice, which would mean that the only “over the top” lie in this context is his own.

Mr. Ugly Voice’s rambling about the film shown at the Eichmann trial ends on a funny note, which is worth mentioning for what it reveals about the inanity of “Revisionist” reasoning: our friend tells his viewers

Here’s Eichmann watching, knowing it’s a fraud.


What made Mr. Ugly Voice conclude that Eichmann “knew” the film to be a “fraud”?

Mr. Ugly Voice doesn’t refer to any statements of Eichmann's in this sense, and it’s also unlikely that there were any – after all the only objection by Eichmann’s defense attorney, see above quote from the transcripts of Session 70 of the Eichmann Trial, was that the decapitated bodies and the heads in the bucket beside them had been arranged in this manner by who discovered the bodies and reported about them (which is not improbable).

So I see two possibilities:

a) Mr. Ugly Voice thought he read this “knowledge” on Eichmann’s face;

b) Mr. Ugly Voice thought he managed to read Eichmann’s mind.

Our readers may decide which of the two better fits this loony.


Thanks a lot to Sergey for his valuable input to this article.

Shooting Mattogno in the foot …

... is what Mr. Ugly Voice does at the start of episode 19 [YouTube version] of his video filth when stating that
The US Holocaust Memorial museum didn’t seek out Kola to find out if there were graves. They assumed the evidence was there, but wanted to know where, because they had plans to build a memorial, and they didn’t want the construction to disturb the graves.

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Bingo, Mr. Ugly Voice!

So even a 3rd – rate rambler like yourself is clearly aware that the purpose of this study was not to provide physical proof of the existence of mass graves and hence the occurrence of mass murder, but to locate the mass graves assumed to be existing in order to avoid their being damaged by a monument to be erected at the Belzec site.

Yet the great guru Mattogno, who obviously read both Kola’s study and Michael Tregenza’s writings about this study, tells his readers nothing about said purpose, but instead tries to make believe that Kola was “supposed to furnish the ‘material proof’ of the alleged extermination at Belzec”, and indulges in unfavorable comparisons between Kola’s investigation and the oh-so-much-more-detailed investigations conducted by the Germans during World War II regarding the NKVD massacres at Katyn and Vinnytsya, as if one and the other had pursued the same objectives.

As explained in Part 1 of my article Carlo Mattogno on Belzec Archaeological Research , this means that Mattogno is either a very sloppy reader of the documents he assesses, or then deliberately misled his readers about the nature and purpose of the archaeological investigation carried out by Kola, to then derisively point out the alleged deficiencies of this investigation, especially the fact that the corpses were not exhumed.

I guess that, if even Mr. Ugly Voice managed to see what Mattogno pretends not to have seen, it is safe to exclude the first option and go for the second one, i.e. assume that Mattogno is simply a liar.

Doubts about Mr. Ugly Voice’s intelligence come up next, when he tells his viewers that «Carlo Mattogno sums up the problems with the study on page 77 of his book» and provides the following quote from that page of Mattognos’ screed:
The only way to dispel any uncertainty would obviously have been to unearth the corpses buried in the graves – why did the Polish authorities not do this? If the main objective of the archeological research was the identification of the mass graves, why were the corpses buried in these graves not exhumed?
This statement would have made some sense under Mattogno’s dishonest assumption that Kola’s study was meant to provide physical proof of the mass killings at Belzec, but considering that – as Mr. Ugly Voice pointed out at the start of this clip – Kola was merely to locate the graves in order to avoid their being damaged by the planned erection of a monument, the “why were the corpses not exhumed?” – question was already answered by Mr. Ugly Voice himself, though he obviously failed to notice it: the corpses were not exhumed because doing so would have damaged the gravesites, which was exactly what the “Polish authorities” and the USHMM wanted to avoid. In Part 1 of my aforementioned article, I wrote about the restrictions that Kola was subject to in his study due to the specification that the graves and human remains contained therein must be disturbed as little as possible, and the row kicked up by a Jewish rabbi on account of Kola’s team having drilled through human remains any more than this rabbi thought was inevitable.

Mr. Ugly Voice goes on to praise «the incredible detail in which the Germans documented the Soviet mass killings they discovered» at Katyn and Vinnytsya, pointing out that these were the only occasions on which «this caliber of documentation happened».

The only occasions? Hmmm, that doesn’t bode well, from a “Revisionist” point of view, for all other crimes committed by the Soviet NKVD (such as the execution of a total of 681,692 people during Stalin’s Ezhovshchina purge in 1937/38), if “this caliber of documentation” should be the “Revisionist” standard of evidence ...

One thing Mr. Ugly Voice doesn’t mention is the propaganda background of these German investigations, which may well have been the reason for the “incredible detail” of documentation that the Germans wanted to present to world public opinion in order to denigrate their enemy and, of course, detract attention from their own much larger crimes.

Mattogno himself mentions the propaganda background of these investigations on page 91 of his Belzec book, where he surmises the following:
If the Soviets had discovered mass graves full of corpses dead of disease or malnutrition, then they would certainly have exploited them for propaganda against the Germans, as the latter did in Katyn and Vinnytsya against the Soviets.
The hypocrisy of this propagandistic endeavor was expressed in the following contemporary message from a German official:
A letter to Rosenberg enclosing reports from Generalkommisar for white Russia, Kube, about the extermination of Jews in the east, June 18 1943
[Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression - Washington, U.S Govt. Print.
Off., 1946, Vol I, p. 1001]
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...The fact that Jews receive special treatment requires no further discussion. However, it appears hardly believable that this is done in the way described in the report of the General Commissioner of 1 June 1943. What is Katyn against that? Imagine only that these occurrences would become known to the other side and exploited by them! Most likely such propaganda would have no effect only because people who hear who hear and read about it simply would not be ready to believe it.
The emphasis in the above quote is mine.

The Soviets, so Mr. Ugly Voice claims, «could never produce any documentation like this».

Was that so, my friend?

I’d say the accuracy of this statement depends on what exactly you are talking about.

If it’s massacres committed by German units in the occupied territories of the Soviet Union (which are what Soviet massacres at Katyn and Vinnitsya can be compared with regarding the evidence left behind and not destroyed by the killers, at least in what concerns a part of the German massacres), the fact is that, as shown for instance in Nick's article Mass Graves in the Polesie and in my article Neither the Soviets nor the Poles have found any mass graves with even only a few thousand bodies ..., the Soviets were able to produce rather dependable documentation, corroborated by sources independent of them, even if they did not necessarily go into a level of detail comparable to that of the German Katyn and Vinnitsya reports. The same goes for Nazi camps on Soviet soil like the Syrets concentration camp, or like the POW camp at Lesnaja/Baranovichi in Belorussia, where 88,407 Soviet prisoners of war perished and regarding which German historian Christian Gerlach, in footnote 424 on page 856 of his book Kalkulierte Morde , mentions a detailed exhumation report.

At the Nazi extermination camps in Poland, on the other hand, the reason why the Soviets “could never produce documentation like this”, i.e. like exhuming the corpses from the graves, doing autopsies and trying to identify the victims, was that the corpses had almost wholly been destroyed by cremation or open-air incineration long before the Soviets got there, and in the case of the AR camps everything had furthermore been done, with plenty of time available, to turn the area into innocuous-looking agricultural or wood land.

So what we have in regard to these camps is another, rather cynical apples-and-oranges comparison of the kind “Revisionists” are fond of.

Nevertheless, as shown by the reports on postwar excavations in the areas of Treblinka and Belzec quoted in my commentary on clip 18 after Mattogno’s corresponding screeds (thanks again, Carlo!), Polish site investigations discovered physical evidence clearly pointing to the occurrence of large-scale mass murder at those places.

To underscore his ignorant and dishonest claim, Mr. Ugly Voice then turns to rambling about Soviet “movies of the camps”, which he tells us were “so over the top that they were not believable”. I have examined the example he provides to sustain this claim and found out that, unsurprisingly, it is as full of shit as everything else we have seen from Mr. Ugly Voice so far. However, as the discussion of this claim, which takes up some space, would detract from the subject matter of clip 19, which is Prof. Kola’s study on the Belzec mass graves, I have transferred this discussion to the blog article The Soviets went over the top in their lies ..., which is published in parallel with the present one.

Back to the comments on the Kola study, Ugly Voice again points out to his readers that Kola’s study was the only study of physical evidence at the AR camps in 50 years.

My comment to this, according to what I wrote in my article about episode 18, is simply the following: So what?

Viewers are then asked to keep in mind that there are cases where detectives have spent “more time” looking for physical evidence for a single murder. What’s that supposed to mean, Mr. Ugly Voice? If there are cases where detectives have spent “more time” (more than 50 years?) looking for physical evidence regarding a single murder, the probable reason is that, in the absence of witnesses and/or confessions, physical evidence was the only means of identifying the murder and linking him to the deed. In what concerns the mass murder at the AR camps, as pointed out in my article about episode 18, there were more accurate means – namely the assessment of eyewitness and documentary evidence – of establishing the fact and the scale of these crimes as well as the identity of the criminals. Mr. Ugly Voice should also bear in mind that there is hardly a mass crime in human history where physical evidence, if investigated at all, has been investigated with the level of detail applied in some individual murder cases. If the only proof that Ugly Voice is willing to accept regarding mass crimes is that resulting from investigations at least as detailed as those conducted by the Germans regarding the NKVD massacres at Katyn and Vinnitsya, he will also have to assume that these are the only two crimes attributable to the Soviet dictator Stalin, to give but one example illustrating the inanity of this reasoning, and forget about ca. 700,000 victims of Stalin’s 1937/38 purge and ca. 1.6 million victims of penal camps under Stalin’s rule, for there was never anything like an autopsy of even a fraction of the bodies. So Stalin had no more people killed than, say, the military junta that ruled Argentina between 1976 and 1982 (assuming you accept the evidence to the killings attributed to them, which would be rather difficult in most cases, at least by “Revisionist” standards, because they made the bodies disappear). I didn't know Mr. Ugly Voice was a Stalin apologist as well ...

Next “point”: from Kola's statements quoted by Mattogno, Ugly Voice is happy to conclude that graves at Belzec were “only” 5 meters deep instead of the 10 meters reported by witnesses regarding Treblinka, which means that, according to Ugly Voice’s calculations – and as he triumphantly shows by drawing the purported space taken up by the graves “to scale” on a map not drawn to scale, apparently hoping for suckers who will fall for this cheap trick – the pits would have taken up 80 % of the whole camp area. Of course this show requires a ridiculously low density of just three corpses per pit, as pointed out in my article about episodes 11 and 12 of the video. Actually, and as explained in section 4.1 of my article Carlo Mattogno on Belzec Archaeological Research, the ca. 21,000 cubic meters of burial space estimated by Kola can be assumed to have been sufficient, considering the composition of the mass graves' “population” and the conditions under which body disposal was carried out at Belzec, to take in the bodies of the 434,508 deportees to Belzec mentioned in Höfle’s report to Heim of 11 January 1943.

Mr. Ugly Voice also sees a problem with Kola having found bodies, which “doesn’t support the part of the story that they cremated all the bodies”. Yeah, sure. That “part of the story” comes from the SS-men who carried out the incineration, and while these did a thorough job in getting rid of the overwhelming majority of the bodies, there’s nothing contradicting this in the fact that they missed some of the bodies lying at the bottom of the graves, either due to oversight or because it was too cumbersome to bring them to the surface. Regarding this issue see part 3 of my aforementioned article, which also addresses Mattogno’s dishonest and irrelevant fuss about the low number of bodies still lying in the graves that he claims, regurgitated as well by Mr. Ugly Voice. Mattogno at least mentioned the layers of partial human remains in the mass graves (see part 3 and section 4.5 of my aforementioned article), which Ugly Voice forgot to tell his readers about.

There follows a reference to Mattogno’s piss-poor explanation as to why there were bodies in mass graves at Belzec (again failing to mention the partial human remains resulting from cremation, which Mattogno was smart enough to not simply ignore): “there was a typhus epidemic in Poland”, and Mattogno “believes” (a proper term, considering the absence of evidentiary support) that “most of those bodies” were typhus victims. This trash is dealt with in the following statement in part 5 of my aforementioned article:
First of all, why would the SS, for only "several thousands, perhaps even some tens of thousands" of dead bodies, have needed 33 mass graves with a total area of 5,919 square meters and a volume of 21,310 cubic meters, which already according to Mattogno’s own calculations could take in about 170,000 corpses? Why would the SS with considerable effort have created so much grave volume to then use only a fraction of it and therefore waste it? Why would they especially have dug the graves as deep as becomes apparent from Kola’s investigation, down to the ground water level and in places even beyond that? The mass graves from Treblinka I that are the subject of Mattogno’s apples and oranges comparison (see section 4.7 of this commentary) were only about 2 meters deep, little more than the proverbial 6 feet below ground.
Last but not least, Ugly Voice tells his viewers how Mattogno “describes the situation of the Jews sent to Belzec”:
They were in a transit camp, from which they would be moved to other labor camps in the east, but first they had to take a shower and be disinfected.
What he doesn’t tell his viewers is that Mattogno fails to present any evidence supporting this “transit camp” claim let alone tell at what “labor camps in the east” (never mind that a contemporary German document quoted by yourself shows Belzec to have been a place where the unemployable Jews were sent, right, Carlo?) the 434,508 Jews “processed” at Belzec in 1942 are supposed to have ended up, which is surprising insofar as there should be a lot of evidence to such large population movements if they had actually taken place but no surprise at all insofar as Mattogno sucked this nonsense out of his thumbs and our poor man’s Mattogno, Mr. Ugly Voice, is just parroting him.

However, Mr. Ugly Voice may have been conscious of the embarrassment that comes with not being able to provide anything in support of the “transit camp” claim, which is as silly as it is the essence of the “Revisionist” nonsense about Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka. For the next thing you see him doing is change the subject to a lecture about typhus and typhus prevention measures, illustrated with the one pleasant part of this video filth I have come across so far: clips from a sequence of the 1970s Charlie’s Angels series showing the sexy female private detectives being infiltrated into a prison and being given a delousing spray after taking a shower upon arrival.

If only the clip had ended there! Replacing the whole clip and the rest of the video with sequences from Charlie’s Angels would have been even better, of course.

But no, the Ugly Voice is back after this brief interlude to fantasize about how people being “transited” through Belzec and the other AR camps may have thought the delousing spray would kill them and made this into horror stories about people being killed where they were told they would be deloused. Capitalizing on the obviously wrong time frame given by eyewitness Abraham Bomba (whose testimony is discussed in Sergey’s article An Ugly Analysis) for the clearing of the gas chambers after a gassing, Ugly Voice then speculates that the reason for such short time being stated may have been that the victims walked out of the gas chambers alive after being deloused. Reasonable assumptions, like Bomba having simply misremembered the time, not expressed himself very clearly or mixed up the gas chambers with the undressing barracks, are obviously beyond Mr. Ugly Voice's grasp.

Of course it is easy to use the account provided in poor English by a somewhat confused witness like Bomba to indulge in speculations like those of Mr. Ugly Voice, especially when you have a public of ignorant suckers eager to believe what you are telling them, which is what our friend seems to be counting on. A lot easier, at any rate, than to deal with a former SS-man’s description of what one of the Belzec gas chambers looked like after one of those “delousing” operations. What follows is my translation of Karl Alfred Schluch’s description of the killing and body disposal process at Belzec; the original German text is quoted in Kogon/Langbein/Rückerl et al, Nationalsozialistische Massentötungen durch Giftgas, pages 167/168, after StA München I, AZ: 22 Js 64-83/61 (AZ. ZSL: 208 AR-Z 252/59, Bd. VI, Bl. 1179):

The unloading of the cars was carried out by a Jewish work detachment under the direction of a capo. Two or three members of the German camp personnel had a supervising function. One of my tasks was to supervise these activities ... The Jews able to walk had to go to the assembly square after unloading. During the unloading the Jews were told that they were going to be resettled and before had to undergo bathing and disinfecting. The address was made by Wirth, but also by his interpreter, a Jewish capo. Thereupon the Jews were taken to the undressing barracks. In one of these the male Jews had to undress, in the other the female Jews and children. After undressing the Jews, separated into men and women with children, were led through the tube. Who was on supervising duty on the undressing barracks I can no longer tell for sure. As I never did duty there, I can provide no exact data about the undressing process. I only remember that in the undressing barracks some pieces of clothing had to be delivered at one place and other at another, and that there was a third place where valuables had to be delivered.
My place at the tube was immediately next to the undressing barracks. Wirth had put me there because in his opinion I had a calming effect on the Jews. I believe that I made the way to the gas chamber easier for the Jews, because my words and gestures had to lead them to the conviction that they were indeed going to be bathed. After the Jews had entered the gas chambers, the doors were locked tight by Hackenholt himself or by the Ukrainians detached to him. Thereupon Hackenholt started running the motor with which the gassing was carried out. After about 5 to 7 minutes – this period I’m only estimating – they looked into the chamber through a peephole to verify if all had died. Only then were the outer doors opened and the gas chambers aired. Who made the control, i.e. who looked through the peephole, I can no longer tell for sure. I think that everyone looked through the peephole at one or the other time.
After the gas chamber had been aired, a Jewish work detachment under the direction of a capo came and took the corpses out of the chambers. Also at this place I occasionally was on supervision duty. I can thus describe the occurrences exactly, because I saw and experienced it all myself. The Jews had been stuffed very tightly into the gas chamber. For this reason the corpses were not lying on the floor, but hung entangled in confusion, some leaning forward, the others backward, others inclined to the side, still others kneeling, depending on where there was room. At least a part of the corpses were soiled with excrements and urine, others with spittle. I could see that the lips and also the tips of the noses of some of them had a bluish coloring. Some had their eyes closed, while those of others were rolled. The corpses were taken out of the chambers and immediately examined by a dentist. The dentist removed rings on the fingers and pulled out eventually existing gold teeth. The valuables thus accruing he threw into a carton prepared for this purpose. After this procedure the corpses were thrown into the existing huge pits.
The size of a grave I can only indicate approximately. It must have been 30 m long and 20 m wide. The depth is more difficult to estimate because the side walls were inclined and the earth removed had been piled up at the edge. I think, however, that the pit may had been 5 to 6 meters deep. All in all a house would have fit comfortably into this pit.



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Monday, August 28, 2006

The Cesspit just keeps on giving

Yet another circus act, this time from "vincentferrer" and "Haldan".

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I found a item on ebay recently which has become a great tool for introducing Holocaust Revisionism to people, who might not otherwise ever ask about it.

If you search on ebay using the keyword Maximilian Kolbe, you will find a seller offering $ .98 black stickers, 2x3.5 inches in size. These stickers are a little smaller than a credit card and have large white numbers on
them: 16670. In very small print it then says, St. Maximilian Kolbe, pray for us.

Most people cannot read that , but they can see the 16670.

I have placed this sticker on the inside of my windshield at the lower left hand side of the window.

And does it ever get people curious.

It then allows me to explain this is the number of a Auschwitz inmate, a non Jew who was in Auschwitz and died............ by a lethal injection.

This is about the fastest route into debunking the legend about Gassings that I can think of. If that does not provide a great door opener for sharing the truth of Revisionism to strangers, I do not know what could.

I also carry a stack of brochures from the IHR and in particular a handout titled, The "Problem of the Gas Chambers" by Robert Faurisson


It works, and that is the botton line.
So, basically, this stupid pig admits that his way of introducing denial to unsuspecting people is black propaganda. Because how otherwise this method could be characterized, if, according to the Auschwitz Chronicle Kolbe was murdered on August 14, 1941? The earliest date mentioned for the first experimental gassing in Auschwitz (significantly, of non-Jews) is August 15, 1941 (testimony of Michal Kula).

So how does that prove anything?

(Of course, lethal injections continued throughout the existence of the camp, so even if Kolbe would be murdered by lethal injection after gassings started, that still wouldn't prove anything. Obviously, sometimes it was more efficient to kill a small number of people with injections rather than wasting Zyklon B on small groups or waiting for the next Jewish transport.)

Not surprisingly, our old friend "Haldan" is wetting his panties in awe:
Yes, it is a good eye opening argument, which infact should work good in this practice, of showing a person that the idea of German "gas chambers" is absurd on the face of the available facts.

It has been written that Kolbe suffered from active tuberculosis and therefore I wonder why it wouldn't have been more convenient to march this man to one of the alleged "gas chambers" along with 1999 Jews or other sick people, or any number of people which the alleged "gas chamber" could hold!

Convenient as in following the story line of the Hoaxco$t, I mean. It is afterall incessantly repeated that those who were ill had to be "gassed" upon arrival.
How come the Cesspit attracts mostly degenerates into its ranks?

Darth David Horowitz responds

Another e-mail from David Horowitz (in response to this, this and this):

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[Subj:] As for the "other trash"

You are conflating two different incidents from two different episodes.

The first incident occurred when the Soros family was still living openly, above-ground.
At that time, young Soros was assigned to deliver deportation notices by the collaborationist Jewish Council or Judenrat -- and was told by his father to warn the recipients of these notices not to report. This is the incident you highlight.

Soros' more controversial interactions with the Nazi regime occurred months later. At that point, the Soros family had split up and gone into hiding under false identities. This was the period when Soros posed as the adopted godson of a Hungarian government official who was assigned to confiscate Jewish property and deliver deportation notices to Jews. Soros told THE NEW YORKER that he accompanied this Hungarian official on his rounds, and helped him perform these duties. THE NEW YORKER specifically mentioned confiscating Jewish property and delivering deportation notices to Jews as activities in which Soros personally took part, while posing as the godson of said Hungarian official.

Both episodes were described in THE SHADOW PARTY. We made it clear that they were separate episodes from two different periods of Soros' young life. The moral conditions underlying both incidents are obviously different. Moreover the fact that we described both of them should give you pause before relying an unscrupulous and unreliable website like Media Matters.
Does Horowitz simply fail to "get it", or does he deliberately obfuscate the issue?

We know from Soros Sr. that George was confronted with a moral dilemma, and asked for an advice. We know that he had been following this advice at least before splitting up of the family. But are we to believe that Soros Jr. suddenly forgot about his moral dilemma after he started to live with a Hungarian official and stopped warning the Jews to whom he delivered deportation notices? Just the opposite - we should assume that he continued to warn them - until proven otherwise. Or, at the very least, even without assuming this, one can't blame him until it is proven that he did stop warning them.

Horowitz's reply does nothing to answer the question I posed earlier:
So merely accompanying this person made a Nazi collaborator out of a 14-years old Jewish boy? (It's not as if he could have "helped" to take over the estates in any meaningful way.)
If Horowitz cannot point out the exact actions which 14 y.o. Soros could take in principle to confiscate Jewish property, besides merely being present, what case against Soros does he have?

Finally, Horowitz's point about two accounts in his and Poe's book is disingenuous. I bet Robertson's interview with Horowitz was watched by many more people than will ever read his and Poe's book. In this interview Horowitz said:
And when he was a young man in fascist Hungary, he came under the protection of one of the fascist leaders of Hungary, and they went around -- he was a young man, to be said in his defense, there -- but he went around confiscating Jewish property prior to sending the Jews who owned it to the gas chambers.
Omission of crucial details - like the advice given by Soros Sr., the exact age of Soros (making it clear that he couldn't have been "confiscating" the Jewish property in any meaningful way), or the fact that young Soros wouldn't have known that many of the deported Jews would end up in the gas chambers (in this respect cf. Braham in Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp, pp. 461, 462 about the lack of knowledge among Hungarian Jews; or, in more detail, Braham, The Politics of Genocide (cond. edn.), pp. 199ff.) - will make an average person think that murderous thief Soros was knowingly sending Jews to their deaths. IMHO, further comments are superfluous.

The Unbearable Stupidity of the Cesspit

As usual, some "revisionist" lemming ("Hotzenplotz") has found something which he, lacking any imagination and common sense, cannot explain, and therefore rejects.
The upper camp is connected with the lower camps by a small gauge ("narrow track") railway, as we are told. More precisely, what we see is that the mass graves are connected with Sobibor's station. The railway leads directly to the platform.

What could possibly be the purpose? SS-men travelling between the two parts of the camp? Illogical.


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First of all, there would be no need for a railway to transport a couple of men for just something like 200 metres. Sounds like a loona park. Secondly, there would be no reason for the tracks to lead to the station. If the railway was to facilitate quick transport between the two parts of the camp, it should end right in the middle of the lower camp, not in front of the "pre-camp". Or was it built for SS-men from the upper camp going "downtown" or on holidays? Absurd. They didn't leave that often and certainly could have walked the 200 metres. Why not use a car or truck, anyway? Or was the railway for supplying coal to the crematoria? There were no crematoria. For transporting the belongings of the "gassed"? No, they were taken away from them already in the lower camps. We know the deportees had to walk naked along the "tube" ("Schlauch") leading to the "gas chambers".

I therefore conclude that the deportees, after having been gassed and dumped in the mass graves, arose from the dead to take a train ride back to Sobibor station!

The Sobibor small gauge railway is an instance of the characteristical appearance of details within a story of lies that don't fit in logically. Within this story, the railway makes perfect sense: Lots of Jews came from the disinfection installations/ shower rooms (a.k.a. "gas chambers") in the upper camp who had to be channeled back to the station swiftly - for transport to the eastern territories. Sometimes several thousands a day. Some of them were old, some children. Instead of whipping them along, the SS chose to build a small gauge railway which ended exactly where it should, at the station, so that the deportees could change to the next train.
Poor schmuck is so silly that he won't be embarrassed even when the obvious will be pointed out to him:
Elderly people, the sick, and invalids who were unable to walk were told that they would be taken to a Lazarett (infirmary) where they would receive medical treatment. Actually they were put on carts, pushed by men or pulled by horse, and at a later stage on a narrow-gauge railway carriage, and were taken into Camp III, directly to the open pits, and there they were shot.
Arad, Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, p. 77.
Another technical improvement introduced in Sobibor was a narrow railway trolley that ran from the disembarking platform to the burial pits in Camp III. It was to replace the carts pushed by prisoners or the horse-drawn carts on which the dead, the sick, and those unable to walk from the train were transferred to the pits. According to Oberscharfuehrer Hubert Gomerski, who was in charge of Camp III, the length of the narrow railway was about 300-400 meters. It included five or six trolleys and a small diesel locomotive.
Scharfuehrer Erich Bauer testified:
... Part of the trolleys and rails originated from the sawmill that bordered the Sobibor camp. Additional trolleys and rails arrived by train from Trawniki. The locomotive of this train came later, about two months after the trolley was in operation. At the beginning horses pulled the trolleys. As I explained in previous interrogations, the trolley was laid to transport the sick and handicapped Jews from the arriving trains to Camp III. I know that these people, including the handicapped and sick, children, and particularly infants, were taken to the so-called Lazarett, and there they were shot by those serving in Camp III. ... It was known in the camps that this Lazarett was used not for healing but for the extermination of the people. ...
Op. cit., pp. 123-124.

Finally, here's the description by the Company Commander Westermann of the arrival of a train to Belzec, a related extermination camp:
The ever greater panic spreading among the Jews due to the great heat, overloading of the train cars, and stink of dead bodies – when unloading the train cars some 2,000 Jews were found dead in the train – made the transport almost unworkable.
The report of Zugwachtmeister Jaecklein confirms the number of the dead:
The ever increasing panic among the Jews caused by the intense heat, the overcrowding in the wagons the stink of the dead bodies – when the wagons were unloaded there were about 2,000 dead in the train – made the transport impossible.
There is no reason to suggest that situation was any different in Sobibor. So that's the simple answer to the silly question.

Now, deniers like to babble about "common sense". But they themselves have none. It doesn't make sense to build a railway to disinfestation chambers, because the chambers can be built near the ramp. It does make sense to build a railway to the mass graves (if the materials are available), because the graves themselves cannot be situated too close to the ramp for obvious reasons.

And still, another denier lemming ("Laurentz Dahl") is very happy about the first lemming's "find":
Nice find.

However, in our upsidedown cloud cuckoo world of today, common "sense" would probably have it that the nazis at Sobibor were so evil that they had to kill their victims twice.

Rutger Hauer they had to gas at last thrice of course...
Gee.

And of course, both lemmings are at loss as how to explain the whereabouts of the Jews transported to Sobibor. "Eastern territories" doesn't cut it, kids. They would have been found in these territories after the war, just as the Jews sent to Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belzec, Chelmno.

But they weren't.

Update: Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis makes a total fool of himself:
What stands out like a liar's big nose is the area designated as 'mass graves'.

Those alleged mass graves have never been shown to actually exist.

If the laughable yarns were true they would excavate and make a enormous media event of it.

Remnants of such alleged mass graves are impossible to obliterate.

The claimed 'mass graves' do not exist. Doesn't get any simpler than this.
Except that the mass graves have been found:
Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi death camp in north-eastern Poland.

The research team, which began its government-sponsored investigation in the summer, said the graves - the largest of which is about half the size of a football pitch - contain charred remains.

Commercial Decisions Aren't Censorship...

...but try telling that to the deniers. Johnnie 'I'm not Hannover' Hargis just threw his rattle out of the pram after receiving an email from Michael Santomauro, acting business manager of VHO while the boss is in jail, saying that US firm PayPal has suspended VHO's account on the grounds that it violates their acceptable use policy on two counts.

Firstly, because "PayPal may not be used to send or receive payments for items or in support of organizations that promote hate, violence, or racial intolerance." Secondly, and this one makes you wonder why it wasn't enforced sooner, because "PayPal also prohibits a person convicted of a violent felony, or his relatives or associates, from using PayPal to benefit financially from the convicted criminal's notoriety or crime.". Now, if you want to split hairs, Young Germar is not a violent felon, merely a deluded pseudo-scientist, but there's little doubt that VHO is soliciting donations on behalf of Rudolf and precisely because of his notoriety.

The response from Hargis is predictably hilarious and utterly paranoid. The ninny automatically assumes that the 'judeo-supremacists' must have been behind it, which would be news to 'avowed libertarian' Peter Thiel, co-founder of PayPal, or to the founder of eBay, Iranian emigre Pierre Omidyar, methinks.

In any case, as the title of this post alludes to, both Hannover and Santomauro don't have a legal leg to stand on. The First Amendment applies exclusively to the US goverment, not to private corporations, who have the legal right to enforce any restrictions they so desire. It's the e-commerce equivalent of the shopkeeper saying 'we don't want your business here'.

Holocaust deniers have been largely shut out of the bookstore trade by simple economics - their books evidently don't sell well enough to warrant much interest from Borders or Barnes & Noble - but remain tolerated on amazon.com, since online bookstores can cope with niche interests better than physical ones. PayPal's decision, however, cuts to the very heart of an operation such as VHO.

How long before they try the hypocritical tactic of comparing the ban to certain boycotts in the past? Not long, probably. Expect to see some smart-ass mouthing off shortly about 'Revisionisten unerwünscht', oblivious to the irony.

Sunday, August 27, 2006

Boatman to be removed from Horowitz's site

This is what I received from David Horowitz today:
Thanks for pointing this out. I had no idea we published this trash. The editor responsible was fired many years ago. I've had Boatman's articles removed from our site.

David Horowitz
That's after I have found this about Robert H. Boatman. OK, very commendable, Mr. Horowitz. Though the articles are still online as I write, I don't have a reason to doubt they will vanish soon (but of course, the Wayback machine remembers everything).

Now about that other trash...

Update: David Horowitz responds

Evolution denial, Holocaust denial (cont.)

Kooky evolution denier Larry Fafarman now posts Holocaust denial crap on his blog, making my point for me:
For the most part, it is just assumed that the Nazis "just knew" who the Jews were -- this is just like the "just-so" stories of evolution theory.
Enjoy.

Meet Celtic Patriot's Best Friend

Ah, the Stormfront. Home of the alternatively-thinking, alternatively-gifted, alternatively-spelling Neanderthals. We have already seen one SF high-IQ specimen, Celtic Patriot.

Here comes the next Alternative Genius - MiketheReeper.

Hi, I'm Mike. Mike the Reeper! Aaaaargh!

Mikey tries to tackle my article about the "revisionist" lies about Alexander Pechersky.

He doesn't do very well, and his spelling is the smallest part of the problem.
Absolutly! There it is, the proof that the "Holocaust" happened!! I must thank you for finally, after how many hundreds of posts this is what you introduce ...The disrespectful rantings of a self-righteous "Holocaust" enforcer who "knows" what happened and therefore does not feel he has to share all facts relavent.
Um, Mikey, are you living in your own fantasy world, or something? (You probably do.) Where anything about the "the proof that the "Holocaust" happened" is mentioned in the article? The paragraph you're dealing does not mention it either. Hmmmm... The article does deal with the deniers' lies though.
So..he saw but he didn't?
Mikey, Mikey, Mikey. Are you on medication, or something? (You probably are.) Didn't you read a few paragraphs later:
Pechersky's description is not only hearsay, it is at least second-hand hearsay. ... But Graf omitted this crucial fact, destroying any credibility he might have ever had.
To make it easier for you, Mikey:

1. Pechersky didn't see it.
2. Nobody said that Pechersky saw it.
3. Pechersky himself didn't say that he saw it.
4. The person Pechersky talked with explicitly said that even he didn't see it.
5. Go to 1.

Mikey again:
Oh, I have a "eyewitness testimony that helps explain the use for the "gas chamber" having fossits and shower heads.
Camp inmates may have sometimes heard real screams and mistakenly assumed that they were the screams of people being killed. For example, consider Sarah Cender's eyewitness account of her arrival at Auschwitz, as quoted by Martin Gilbert (Auschwitz and the Allies, Holt, Rinehart and Winston, 1981, p. 309):

"Upon arrival we were separated from the males and brought in front of a building where heaps of clothing were lying on the ground. We were ordered to undress quickly and naked we were pushed into a pitch dark chamber (what we naively and hopefully thought to be a bath facility -- although no soap or towel were given to us).
The doors closed behind us. Anxious seconds and minutes passed. Nothing seemed to happen -- for a while. Only cries and laments and hysterical screams we heard from every corner of the chamber. Some of the women started to cough incoherently, believing being choked by gas. The situation became unbearable....

Eventually, after a bombing raid, the doors were opened and Cender and her companions were ordered out of "the chamber". But how many camp inmates heard their "hysterical screams" and assumed that they were being gassed?
So how does this testimony explain anything about showers and faucets?

I understand, of course, that smart, long texts are confusing for poor Mikey:
I am assuming since this sites ideas are almost confusing
Don't assume, Mikey. That makes an ASS out of U (but not ME).

PS: Mikey's butt buddy Hektor chimes in:
But if you really believe they debunked the videos, you certainly also believe in the "gas chambers with opening floors", do you Trojan11?!
Boy, aren't you stupid, Hek! How much of "I did not see that" should we repeat to you? Whatever Biskowitz saw from a distance, in a hurry, and described as a hollow with the bodies, he said about the "collapsing floor": "I did not see that". And historians rightly don't use this part, because it doesn't mesh with other descriptions, but it doesn't discredit Biskowitz, exactly because of the circumstances in which he witnessed whatever he later described as a hollow with bodies. To repeat: it was at a distance; he was in a hurry. This doesn't add to credibility of these particular observations, and does not detract from Biszkowitz's overall credibility, because exactly these circumstances help to explain why Biskowitz got it wrong.

Saturday, August 26, 2006

From Pasteur to Hitler

Orac has a brilliant analogy to counter creationist innuendo - why not also blame Pasteur? He also brings up Koch. And well, whaddaya know (to quote from Prof. Richard Evans' expert report):
On the evening of 10 July 1941, Hitler declared at his table: ‘I feel I am like Robert Koch in politics. He discovered the bacillus and thereby ushered medical science onto new paths. I discovered the Jew as the bacillus and the fermenting agent of all social decomposition.’
At Hitler’s table talk on 22 February 1942, the following statement was recorded:

It is one of the greatest revolutions there has ever been in the world. The Jew will be identified! The same fight that Pasteur and Koch had to fight must be led by us today. Innumerable sicknesses have their origin in one bacillus: the Jew! Japan would also have got them if it had remained open any longer to the Jew. We will get well when we eliminate the Jew.
There's a whole paper online, entitled Genocide as Immunology:
A chapter of Edleff Schwab book Hitler’s Mind (1992) focusing on Hitler’s attraction to immunology is entitled "The Pasteur-Koch complex." Schwab poses the question of what possible connection Hitler could have discovered between the work of two scientists who had devoted their lives to the betterment of the human race and his own obsession with destroying Jewish people? He suggests that something must have "struck a chord when early in his life he heard and Pasteur & Koch;" their major scientific breakthroughs must have "fascinated him as he pondered the meaning of the world." Hitler, Schwab suggests, found in Pasteur's and Koch's contributions a model that became the "nuclear element in his paranoid system and assumed a major role in his entire emotional life."

The renowned chemist Louis Pasteur (1822-95) had reasoned that sickness in animals and people can be caused by bacteria. Support for this notion was provided soon after by the German researcher Robert Koch (1843-1910). The concept of social disease, Schwab theorizes, fused in Hitler's mind with the teachings of these two bacteriologists, Pasteur and Koch. Hitler took it upon himself to become a self-appointed crusader to salvage the health of the nation.
Like Pasteur and Koch, Hitler saw himself as a benefactor of humankind. Just as a physician kills bacteria and viruses by applying medication to restore health, Hitler felt that by killing people he could save human civilization. In planning the Final Solution, Schwab suggests, Hitler thought he was applying the procedures of modern medical technology on a massive scale as a health-restoring program to assure human existence in the future. Thus did ideas about the body, disease and the immune system become the basis of Hitler’s paranoid belief system.
Oh my! Darwin quietly rests in a shadow.

I guess, we should burn all the immunology textbooks.

PS: I know, I know, Prof. Evans endorsed Weikart's book. I've been told he will weigh in on the issue in the coming weeks. And don't expect his response to be sympathetic to creationists.

Friday, August 25, 2006

An Open Letter to Laird Wilcox

Dear Mr. Wilcox:

I had occasion to recently read "The Spectre Haunting Holocaust Revisionism" from Bradley Smith's publication back in 1989. I congratulate you on making a strong point: Neo-Nazism and Hitler apologism indeed remains a major stumbling block for the advance of "revisionism." Writing seventeen years later, I can say with assurance that "revisionism" hasn't gained much ground outside of the Middle East (where it is intrinsically tied, in most cases, to vile anti-Semitism), and the reason is largely because most people conceive of "revisionists" as ultra-right-wing nut jobs. So point taken.

However, you write, "What you see in revisionism (with the exception of the Institute for Historical Review) is several little one-man or kitchen table operations." It occurred to me that now the IHR also has become a one-man operation -- i.e., that of Mark Weber. So I guess my question to you would be this: Given Mr. Weber's long and sordid history as a member of neo-Nazi organizations and the Ron Furey sting that the SWC played on him a year or so before you wrote your article, are you willing to openly state that Mr. Weber is an impediment to your movement? And if not, then why not?

As this is an open letter, it will reside online in two places: RODOH and the Holocaust Controversies blog. I welcome your response in either place. I have CC'ed Scott Smith, director of RODOH, and Mr. Weber on this e-mail.

Yours truly,

Andrew E. Mathis, Ph.D.

More about Boatman

In continuation of the previous posting, it seems that Robert Boatman left some traces in Usenet. His e-mail is (was?) Interboat@aol.com and here's what the Google Groups archives contain (emphasis mine):
If Hillary were in the hospital with cancer (I wish!), who do you think Pinocchio would be screwing?
You may be disappointed but you should not be surprised. Jews invented hate-mongering and the big lie, and continue to be masters at the practice of both. There is only one final solution.
Jews fight back? What a novel concept. Why don't you just teach them to control their bedwetting instead.
Lighten up. I'm an American and I couldn't agree more with the original writer. Too bad Lee [Harvey Oswald - SR] isn't around today when we really need him.
And the final gem, from alt.sex.incest:
Mature real man in search of fantasy young daughter for e-mail correspondence.
Robert H. Boatman



Moonbat says:

Hey! I like that guy! (Except for that 'daughter' bit.)
Update: Boatman to be removed from Horowitz's site.

Lying Moonbat strikes again

Far right propagandist David Horowitz on Pat Robertson's program:
Soros, when he was young, the family name was Schwartz. It was changed to Soros in 1936. And when he was a young man in fascist Hungary, he came under the protection of one of the fascist leaders of Hungary, and they went around -- he was a young man, to be said in his defense, there -- but he went around confiscating Jewish property prior to sending the Jews who owned it to the gas chambers. Now, he was asked on 60 Minutes by [co-host] Steve Kroft if he felt any guilt over that, and he said none whatsoever.
I have already written about this here and here.

It's not really surprising that such a history-distorting sack of manure would be featuring a suspected Holocaust denier Robert Boatman on his site. Click here to see what I'm talking about. Just one quote from Boatman's article:
No less a scholar than Dr. Robert Faurisson of France has compiled a mountain of evidence establishing that the [Anne Frank's] diary is a literary hoax from beginning to end.
Update: read more about Boatman.
Update: Boatman to be removed from Horowitz's site.
Update: David Horowitz responds

Thursday, August 24, 2006

Minutia

It's worth checking out A. Rueckerl's letter to David Irving re: Gerstein's report.

Bwahahaha!

If the Jewish Holocaust is a hoax as many revisionists, including this writer, contend–then, the entire universe may have been created by God and Jesus about ten thousand years ago. If the Holocaust is false–then maybe, the scientific view of the universe is also false. No doubt, some similarity in positions has encouraged some creationists to seek converts among holocaust revisionists. What a pity! Perhaps salvation and eternal bliss have something to do with the periodic ingestion of the blood and body of Jesus? Creationism is a kind of revisionism–but it is revisionism without merit. Christianity is also without any merit. Jews were, and are, quite correct in identifying Jesus as a fraud, a huckster and a shameless self-promoter–but their own beliefs are no better. By contrast, Holocaust revisonism has great merit because no one was ever killed by the Nazis in gas chambers!
Guess who?

Wednesday, August 23, 2006

Whining and Kvetching from the Ugly Voice Producer …

... is what episode 18 [YouTube version] of his video filth largely consists of.

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In my previous article about episodes 11 and 12 of the Ugly Voice Productions video, I had pointed out, among other things, that the archaeological investigation led by Prof. Andrzej Kola on the area of Belzec between 1997 and 1999, during which 33 mass graves with a total volume of ca. 21,000 cubic meters were identified, was not even mentioned in the video’s episode 12. Thereupon an anonymous “Revisionist” smart-ass, who obviously had not read my statement carefully enough, tried to correct me by stating that Kola’s study is mentioned in «chapter 18 and 19 of the movie». I replied that I had made no pretension in my article to have looked at the whole movie, and that its episodes 18 and 19, if mentioning Kola’s study, might be the subject of a future article.

So now I follow up Sergey’s brilliant article An Ugly Analysis with another contribution to our growing collection of commentaries on the Ugly Voice video clips.

Episode 18 starts with the anonymous Mr. Ugly Voice giving his viewers some wisdom about how soil tends to be structured in different geological sediment layers, which of course would be upset by the digging of mass graves, which is why he thinks it would be “self evident” to take soil samples from areas outside and inside the former Treblinka extermination camp and compare the sediment layer structure of both in order to determine if there was ever a disturbance of the original geological sediment layer structure of the latter. He doesn’t explain, however, why on earth someone should bother to do such “experiment” after it was already established by excavations (which are incidentally mentioned later on in this clip and will be addressed in more detail in the present article) that there had been digging and disposal of human remains on a large scale in the Treblinka area, and despite the fact that (as I haven’t seen our friend mention anywhere in his film so far) hardly any of the hundreds of thousands of documented deportees to what all known evidence shows to have been a killing center is known to have ever left the place alive.

Our friend also doesn’t reveal (at least in this episode) on what basis he established the “rough” size and location of the “alleged killing and burial area of the camp”, which he outlines in this context on a photo of Treblinka in the 1960s. Presumably his underlying calculations are based on un-scaled maps that were drawn by eyewitnesses or by others on the basis of eyewitness testimonies – a fallacious approach on his part, already addressed in my previous article about episodes 11 and 12 of the Ugly Voice Productions video.

After this brilliant introduction, viewers are treated to impressive figures about what the soil of the Treblinka mass graves should contain:

• Ashes of 225 million pounds of wood, assuming 750,000 bodies and a “low estimate” of 300 pounds of wood per person.

• Millions of teeth.

As to the ashes, our friend’s calculation of the corresponding wood amount, i.e. 300 pounds or ca. 136 kg per person, might be fairly reasonable, according to my calculations and the sources mentioned in section 4.2 of my article Carlo Mattogno on Belzec Archaeological Research, if the persons killed at Treblinka had weighed about 70 kg on average, and if they had all been incinerated right after having been killed, and not mostly after weeks or months of lying in mass graves. None of this was the case, of course. Even Mattogno assumes an average weight of 46 kg for Treblinka corpses (“average assumed weight, including allowance for presumed children” – as women and children were usually unable to work and thus the first to be exterminated at places like Treblinka, the “allowance” should be slapped around Mr. Mattogno’s ears), and if 700,000 out of our Ugly Voice friend’s 750,000 corpses eventually incinerated at Treblinka had previously lain in mass graves and were equally distributed among corpses at the stage of putrefaction and corpses at the advanced stages of decomposition, the average weight of previously buried bodies to be burned, assuming the average body weight “allowed” by Mattogno is adequate for Treblinka and otherwise applying my calculations for Belzec to this case, would have been the following:

Corpses at the stage of putrefaction: 350,000 x 46 kg = 16,100,000 kg.

Corpses at the stage of black putrefaction or butyric fermentation: 350,000 x 18 kg (40 % of 46 kg, the other 60 % corresponding to the fluids that would have left the body at these stages) = 6,440,000 kg.

Total weight of 700,000 corpses: 16,100,000 + 6,440,000 = 22,540,000 kg.

Average weight per corpse: 22,540,000 ÷ 700,000 = 32 kg.

The maximum amount of wood required to burn 32 kg of corpse under the conditions existing at Treblinka and the other Aktion Reinhard(t) camps (where the dryness of a large part if not most of the corpses and/or flammable substances forming during the decomposition process presumably reduced the firewood requirements far below the amounts I calculated, as pointed out in section 4.2 of my article Carlo Mattogno on Belzec Archaeological Research) would have been 64 kg, according to my calculations for Belzec. If another 50,000 corpses were burned at Treblinka right after the killing, without having been previously buried in mass graves (as was done in the later stages of the camp’s operation), and if each of these required 46 x 2 = 92 kg of firewood for burning, the maximum total amount of wood required for burning 750,000 corpses at Treblinka would have been the following:

Corpses burned after being taken out of the mass graves: 700,000 x 64 = 45,080,000 kg
Corpses burned directly after killing: 50,000 x 92 = 4,600,000 kg
Total weight of required firewood: 49,680,000 kg

49,680,000 kg equal ca. 109,525,652 pounds, which means that our Ugly Voice friend’s “low estimate” of 225,000,000 pounds of wood is exaggerated by a factor of about 2 at least.

49,680,000 kg or 49,680 tons of wood, according to Mr. Mattogno (see section 4.5 of my article Carlo Mattogno on Belzec Archaeological Research), would leave behind 49,680 x 0.08 = 3,974 tons of ash with a volume of 3,974 ÷ 0.34 = 11,689 cubic meters. The incinerated corpses themselves, weighing a total of 16,100,000 + 6,440,000 + 2,300,000 = 24,840,000 kg or 24,840 tons, would according to Mattogno’s calculation factors leave behind 24,840 x 0.05 = 1,242 tons of ashes with a volume of 1,242 ÷ 0.5 = 2,484 cubic meters. The total incineration remains returned to the Treblinka mass graves would thus (at most, considering the conditions mentioned above) have had a volume of 11,689 + 2,484 = 14,173 cubic meters.

Now, the volume of the mass graves, according to the calculations in my article Polish investigations of the Treblinka killing site were a complete failure ..., was more than 90,000 cubic meters. This means that the cremation remains that one can at most expect to find in these graves would be amongst amounts of soil about six times larger, wildly mixed with this soil due to the robbery digs that went on for over a decade after the end of the war, and thus rather hard to separate from this soil so as to allow for their quantification. If we look at the human ashes alone, the relative amount thereof in the soil is even much less: 2,484 out of ca. 90,000 cubic meters, or about 3% of the total volume of the mass graves!

The teeth that Mr. Ugly Voice and Mr. Neumaier make so much of would hardly change this picture. First of all, it is doubtful whether all that many teeth would have survived the incineration and subsequent crushing and grinding procedure, which Neumaier refers to but does not describe in detail, perhaps for good reason. The procedure is described as follows on pages 189 and following of the study Nationalsozialistische Massentötungen durch Giftgas, edited by Eugen Kogon, Hermann Langbein, Adalbert Rückerl et al:

Wenn das Feuer erlosch, blieben ganze Skelette oder vereinzelte Knochen auf dem Rost zurück. Darunter hatten sich Berge von Asche gesammelt. Ein anderes Häftlingskommando, »die Aschenkolonne«, musste sie zusammenkehren und die Überreste der Knochen auf dünne Bleche legen. Mittels runder Holzpflöcke wurden die Knochen kleingestampft und danach durch ein engmaschiges Metallsieb geschüttelt; was darin hängenblieb, wurde noch einmal zerkleinert. Unverbrannte Knochen, die schwer zu zersplittern waren, wurden ein zweites Mal ins Feuer geworfen.


My translation:

When the fire went out, whole skeletons or single bones remained on the grid. Underneath mountains of ash had gathered. Another inmate detachment, the »ash column«, had to collect them and place the remains of the bones onto thin metal sheets. By means of round wooden logs the bones were ground and then run through a tightly meshed metal sieve; what was caught therein was ground once more. Unburned bones that were hard to break up were thrown into the fire a second time.


But even in the improbable case that Neumaier’s 20 teeth per corpse survived this procedure as well as the postwar robbery digs involving the use of explosives (see my article Polish investigations of the Treblinka killing site were a complete failure …) and that 750,000 corpses thus left 15 million teeth still buried together with the human and wooden ashes in the Treblinka mass graves, it would not exactly be a piece of cake to separate 167 teeth per cubic meter (assuming an even distribution of the teeth throughout the soil, which would not necessarily have occurred - there might just as well have been larger concentrations of teeth in certain parts of the filled-in soil and smaller concentrations or no teeth at all in others) from the masses of soil and ashes surrounding them in order to allow for a quantification of the total amount of teeth in the area and thence drawing conclusions about the number of people buried there. In fact, any quantification of human remains in the area of Treblinka would require digging up all the soil from the mass graves once they had been exactly located, i.e. about 90,000 cubic meters of soil according to my calculations, and then finding a method by which to separate the human remains from the wood ash and the sandy ground they are mixed with in such a way as to allow for a more or less reliable quantification of the bodies that these remains belong to. This would be possible only in regard to the teeth, assuming the improbable case that they survived in sufficient numbers, and the related procedure would presumably require no less time and resources than the search for emeralds in the dug-up earth of a respective mining area.

Why, now, would any forensic investigators or historical researchers of events at Treblinka undertake such a presumably Herculean and not necessarily fruitful effort in order to more or less establish the number of people murdered at Treblinka, when there is a far more accurate method for establishing this number? This method consists in assessing the number of people who were transported to Treblinka – and of whom all except a few dozen escapees never left the place alive – on the basis of pertinent eyewitness accounts and documentary evidence. The Polish Central Commission for the Investigation of German Crimes in Poland seems to have been the first to recognize that this method, and not combing through tens of thousands of cubic meters of soil for human ashes, bone fragments or teeth, was the most accurate means to establish the order of magnitude of the mass murder committed at Treblinka. The following quote is from the English translation of the report on Treblinka by the Central Commission for the Investigation of German Crimes in Poland; emphases by bolding are mine:

An accurate calculation of the number of victims is at present impossible. It will be remembered that Treblinka ceased its activities in the autumn of 1943, so that the German authorities had enough time to wipe out the traces of their crimes. The most reliable method of counting the number of victims is by counting the number of train-loads. The figures based on the dimensions of the gas chambers give no guarantee whatever of accuracy, as we do not know, firstly, how often the gas-chambers were used, and, secondly, the number of people who, on an average, were gassed at any one time. In establishing the number of train-loads, the commission based its findings on the evidence given by the witnesses, laying special stress on the statements of the railway workers and on the railway records from Treblinka station, which are in the possession of the commission of enquiry.
The most active period seems to have been from August to the middle of December, 1942. During that time we may assume one daily train-load as unquestionable according to the evidence of the railway-workers. Indeed four witnesses put the figure at two per day. After that, from the middle of January to the middle of May, 1943, the average was probably one a week. Some of the witnesses put the figure at three.
The average number of wagons in a transport was 50 through sometimes, as the railway records showed, it was as many as 58.
The total number of wagon-loads of victimls from August 1, 1942, to May 15, 1943, may be taken, with some certainty, to have been 7,550.
In the later period, from the railway records; the list of the wagons for August 17, 1943; a telegram of August 18, 1943; and a document entitled Fahrplanordnung Nr. 290 sent from Treblinka station by the Reichsbahndirektion Königsberg, the number of train-loads could be established quite accurately.
In the above-mentioned Fahrplanordnung we read among ather things: Zur Abbeförderung von Aussledlern verkehrenp.104
folgende Sonderzüge von Bialystok nach Malkinia. Ziel Treblinka, from which it may be concluded that after the revolt the following train-loads, were brought in: on Aug. 27, 1943, 41 wagons; on Aug. 19, 35 wagons; on Aug. 21, two transports of 38 wagons each; on Aug. 22, two transports of 39 wagons each; and on Aug. 23, one transport of 38 wagons; i. e. a total of 266 wagons.
As an average number of persons per wagon we may take 100 (the majority of witnesses deposed that it was more than 150).
According to this calculation the number of victims murdered at Treblinka amounts to at least 731,600. Taking into consideration the great caution with which the investigators assessed the number of train-loads and the average number of persons per wagon, this must be accepted as probable, that in actual fact the number of victims was even larger1. (1It should be pointed out that from pertinent documents such as telegrams, time-tables and way-bills it appears absolutely certain that more than two thousand wagon-loads of Jews were brought to Treblinka; yet these documents constituted but a small part of all the railway documentary evidence, the greater part of which is lost.)


The adequacy of this approach, as well as the accuracy or this early calculation, which did not yet benefit from documentary evidence discovered since, is shown by the fact that, according to the report sent by SS-Sturmbannführer Höfle in Lublin on 11 January 1943 to Obersturmbannführer Heim in Krakow (which, incidentally, I wouldn’t be surprised not to find mentioned anywhere in the Ugly Voice Productions video), 713,555 Jews had been delivered at Treblinka by 31.12.1942. One wonders what erroneous orders of magnitude the Poles would have come up with if, instead of taking their reasonable quantification approach, they had endeavored to detach from an enormous amount of soil the human remains contained therein in a way that would allow for quantifying the victims. Such quantification can be difficult if not impossible even where no incineration of the bodies has occurred, like in the case of the 884 bone fragments found under a cliff overhang in Croatian Krapina by geologist Dagutin Gorjanovic Kramberger in 1899, regarding which – according to this article – no one can tell to this day if they belong to 20 or to 80 dead bodies.

To be sure, Mr. Ugly Voice doesn’t speak of quantification when he bemoans the supposed lack of soil examinations.

But why, if not in order to quantify the victims, should anyone have looked into the soil underneath the Treblinka site at all?

In order to establish whether there had really been mass graves at a place that everyone involved with it described as a killing site and where hundreds of thousands of people had disappeared from the face of the earth? That’s what I would call a waste of time.

In order to make sure that the physical traces of the killing are compatible with the order of magnitude thereof that becomes apparent from the documentary, eyewitness and demographic evidence, however unreasonable it is to expect incompatibility? Not a must either, but there’s also nothing wrong with cross-checking known sources of evidence against as many other sources of evidence as possible, and for this purpose looking underneath the area where hundreds of thousands of murdered people were disposed of is certainly an endeavor to be welcomed.

Showing some elementary logic for once, Mr. Ugly Voice places excavations above soil sample examinations as a means to establish the killing site’s underground, and even mentions that such excavations have been carried out at the AR camp sites, albeit by “the Soviets and Soviet-installed governments”, as if that significantly reduced their value or even made them worthless. What these excavations turned up he apparently prefers not to mention.

Fortunately for who doesn’t feel like swallowing Mr. Ugly Voice’s chatter, the often useful Mr. Mattogno provided translations of the pertinent investigation reports on Treblinka and Belzec in his respective screeds about these camps. The following passages relating to the report on Treblinka were already quoted in my article Polish investigations of the Treblinka killing site were a complete failure … (bolding emphases in the following quote are mine):

For the purpose of performing an official investigation of the scene of the crime, Judge Lukaszkiewicz had gone to Treblinka. As he later explained, he acted206 "[…] at the request of the State Prosecutor of the District Court in Siedlce of September 24, 1945, further induced by a letter of September 18, 1945, of the Main Commission for the Investigation of the German Murders in Poland."

After bidding farewell to the visitors, Lukaszkiewicz set to work with a group of workers. Between November 9 and 13, he undertook a thorough examination of the grounds as well as a series of excavations. Afterwards he composed an official protocol, which we reproduce in full in view of its significance:207

"Protocol of the tasks performed on the grounds of the death camp Treblinka, which forms the object of the judicial examination.

From November 9 to 13, 1945, the examining magistrate of Siedlce, Z. Łukaszkiewicz, together with the State Attorney for the District Court of Siedlce, J. Maciejewski, performed the following tasks on the camp grounds:

November 9, 1945
Excavations were begun on the grounds using the services of 20 workers who had been mustered by the village administration for carrying out roadwork. The excavations began at the location described by the witness Rajzman on November 6, where the so-called ‘camp hospital’ had stood and where, according to the witness, a mass grave is supposed to exist.
Since a bomb crater 4 to 5-meter deep is present at the said location – two bombs still lie at a slight distance from this crater – the digging was begun in this crater. In the course of this work numerous Polish, as well as Russian, German, Austrian, and Czech coins as well as broken pieces of various kinds of containers were discovered. At the end of the work, at approximately 3 pm, at a depth of 6 meters, we encountered a layer which had not been reached previously. There were no human remains found.

November 10, 1945
The work was continued, with 36 workers assigned who had been commandeered for roadwork. At a depth of 6 meters begins a layer which has never before been uncovered by anyone. It consists partly of all sorts of kitchen utensils and different kinds of household objects; there are also pieces of clothing. At a depth of 7 meters, we reached the floor of the pit – a layer of yellow sand which is not mixed with gravel. By means of expansion of the excavation we succeeded in determining the shape of the pit. It has sloping walls, and the bottom measures about 1.5 meters [sic!]. The pit was presumably excavated with an excavator. During the course of the excavations, numerous more or less badly damaged Polish documents were discovered, further a badly damaged personal identity card of a German Jew, as well as several more coins: Polish, German, Russian, Belgian, and even American. After we had made certain that this pit, filled with broken pieces of the containers mentioned, ran in a north-south direction on the grounds of the camp area – 2 meters more [in a northerly direction] had been excavated – the workers started work at this location.

November 11, 1945
A series of test excavations were performed at the place where the [gas] chambers had to have been located, in order to find their foundation walls if possible. Pits 10 - 15 meters in length and 1.5 meters deep were dug. Undisturbed layers of earth were uncovered by this.
The largest of the craters produced by explosions (numerous fragments attest to the fact that these explosions were set off by bombs), which is at maximum 6 meters deep and has a diameter of about 25 meters – its walls give recognizable evidence of the presence of a large quantity of ashes as well as human remains – was further excavated in order to discover the depth of the pit in this part of the camp. Numerous human remains were found by these excavations, partially still in a state of decomposition.[208] The soil consists of ashes interspersed with sand, is of a dark gray color and granulous in form. During the excavations, the soil gave off an intense odor of burning and decay. At a depth of 7.5 meters the bottom was reached, which consisted of layers of unmixed sand. At this point the digging was stopped here.

November 13, 1945
With the assistance of 30 workers employed for roadwork, the opening of a pit was begun – a site where refuse was deposited in the northeastern section of the camp. In this location, as the workers from the nearby hamlets explained, a very large number of documents were found up till now. Work was begun at this location where the people [of that area] had dug a three-meter-deep pit in a search for gold. During the course of the digging, broken pieces of all sorts of kitchen containers as well as a large number of rags were continually found. Aside from the coins discovered so far, Greek, Slovakian, and French ones were found, as well as documents in Hebrew and Polish and remnants of a Soviet passport. At a depth of 5 meters the work was stopped due to the steadily worsening weather conditions.

The Examining Judge The State Attorney
Lukaszkiewicz Maciejewski

Decision:
The Examining Judge of Siedlce, on November 13, 1945, rules in consideration of the fact that with great probability no mass graves are any longer to be found on the grounds of the former camp today, as is to be concluded from the witness testimonies examined so far and from the results of the works carried out at the site, and in consideration of the oncoming autumn, the present rainfall and the necessity of a rapid conclusion of the judicial preliminary investigations, in view of all these facts to stop the work on the territory of the former death camp Treblinka.

The Examining Judge
Lukaszkiewicz."


On December 29, 1945, after the conclusion of his preliminary investigations, Lukaszkiewicz issued a protocol with 14 paragraphs, which – as already mentioned – was presented by the Soviets at the Nuremberg Trial as Document USSR-344. In the third paragraph, which bears the title "Current condition of the camp terrain", it says the following:209

"With the assistance of an expert land surveyor and witnesses, I made an exact inspection of the terrain. According to the measurements, the area of the camp is approximately 13.45 hectares and had the shape of an irregular quadrilateral. No remnants of facilities of the former death camp exist any longer. The only things that remain of the structures are: a ditch with remains of burned wooden poles protruding up, which lead into the cellar, wall bricks from the foundations of the camp’s domestic economics building and the site of the well. Here and there one finds traces of the burned-out wooden poles of the fence and remains of barbed wire. There are also some sections of paved walks that remain. Nonetheless, there are still other traces that hint at the existence and functions of the camp. In the northwestern section of the area, the surface is covered for about 2 hectares by a mixture of ashes and sand. In this mixture, one finds countless human bones, often still covered with tissue remains, which are in a condition of decomposition. During the inspection, which I made with the assistance of an expert in forensic medicine, it was determined that the ashes are without any doubt of human origin (remains of cremated human bones). The examination of human skulls could discover no trace of« wounding. At a distance of some 100 m, there is now an unpleasant odor of burning and decay. In the southwestern direction, a portion of the camp terrain is covered by aluminum – enamel – glass and porcelain dishes – kitchen utensils – hand luggage – rucksacks – pieces of clothing, etc. There are innumerable holes and craters on the property."

Lukaszkiewicz summarized the investigations carried out a month earlier at that location as follows:210

"During the work on the terrain, I found no mass graves, which, in connection with the statements by the witnesses Romanowski and Wiernik, leads to the conclusion that nearly all of the bodies of the victims were burned, all the more so since the camp was liquidated early and the murderers had much time. The ground of the camp was ploughed and sown. Ukrainians were settled there, who fled before the arrival of the Red Army (witnesses Kucharek and Lopuszyński)."


Regarding Belzec, we find the following on pages 79 f of Mattogno’s Belzec in Propaganda, Testimonies, Archaeological Research, and History [large PDF], much praised by Mr. Ugly Voice (bolding emphases are mine):

On October 12, 1945, the Regional Investigative Judge of the district court of Zamosc, Czeslaw Godzieszewski, presented an “Account of the diggings in the cemetery of the Belzec extermination camp,” in which he set down the findings from the inspection of the Be ec camp he had made that day, aided by 12 workers. In this context, he wrote:242
The opening labeled No. 1 was taken down to a depth of 8 m and a width of 10 m and attained the bottom level of the graves. During the operation, at a depth of about 2 m, we struck the first layer of ash stemming from incinerated human bodies, mixed with sand. This layer was about 1 m thick. The next layer of ash was discovered at a depth of 4 – 6 meters. In the ash removed, some charred remains of human bodies were found, such as hands and arms, women’s hair, as well as human bones not totally burnt. We also recovered pieces of burnt wood. In trench No. 1, the layer of human ash stopped at a depth of 6 meters. The opening labeled No. 2 was taken down to a depth of 6 meters. In this trench, the layer of human ash began at a depth of 1.5 m and continued down to a depth of some 5 m, with occasional breaks. Here, too, the ash contained human hair, part of a human body, pieces of clothing, and remnants of incompletely burnt bones. Openings labeled Nos. 3 and 4 were freed to a depth of 3 meters. In hole No. 4, at a depth of 80 cm, we found a human skull with remnants of skin and hair, as well as two shinbones and a rib. Furthermore, at a level of between one and three meters, these holes yielded human ash mixed with sand and fragments of incompletely burnt human bones. Openings labeled Nos. 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 were dug to a depth of 2 m, but showed only human ash mixed with sand and human bones, such as jawbones and shinbones. Throughout all the excavations it was observed that the camp cemetery had already been disturbed by wildcat diggings; this is borne out by the fact that the layers of human ash are not uniform but mixed with sand. The recovered human bones; the bodily remains, which where in a state of complete decomposition; and the ash were collected in a common location to await the arrival of the district surgeon. Work was stopped at 17:30 hours.”
The next day, October 13, 1945, the findings were inspected by the coroner. The subsequent report describes primarily the results of the examination performed by the judge and the coroner:243
During the inspection of the area of the extermination camp, particularly during the excavations at the place of the cemetery on October 12, 1945, a large number of human bones were found, such as skulls, parts of skulls, vertebrae, ribs, collarbones, shoulder blades, arm bones, lower legs, wrists, fingers, pelvic bones, thigh bones, lower legs, and foot bones.Some of the bones mentioned are either partly burnt or had not been burnt at all. Except for a few skulls showing rotting scalp and hair, the majority of the bones are free from soft tissue. Among the remains of human bodies recovered on October 12, 1945, we identified two forearms and a lumbar portion of the backbone with some soft tissue and traces of carbonization. The lumbar section belongs to an adult, whereas the forearms come from a child a few years old. From the size of the various bones one can conclude that they belong to persons of different age groups, from two-year-olds up to very old people, as borne out by toothless jaws and numerous dentures. Among the jawbones found there was one partially burnt specimen containing milk teeth as well as incipient permanent teeth, which indicates that it belongs to a person 7 to 8 years of age. No traces of bullet holes or other mechanical wounds were found on the skulls. The long bones show no traces either of gunshot wounds or fractures. Because of the advanced state of decomposition it was very difficult to say to what organs the recovered shapeless portions of soft tissue from human bodies might belong. In ahole dug by the local population in a search for gold and valuables, two lower legs belonging to a two-year-old child were discovered. These members are partly decomposed, partly mummified. The area of the cemetery, in particular the wildcat holes, is covered with layers of human ash of varying breadth, which stem from the incineration of human corpses and wood; they are intermingled with sand in varying proportions. The color of the ash varies between light-ash and dark gray; the ash has a heavy consistency and smells of decomposing human bodies. In the ash, charred human bones as well as pieces of charcoal are clearly visible. In the lower strata of the ash the smell of decomposition is more pronounced than in the layers nearer the surface. The hair discovered belongs mainly to women, as shown by their length and by the type of arrangement (braids and buns fixed with hairpins). In addition to natural hair, we encountered ladies’ wigs as well. With this, the inspection was terminated.”
The coroner’s expert opinion, which comes at the end of the report, reached the following conclusions: The bones found were human in origin and came from a “very large” quantity of corpses; these corpses had been interred about three years earlier; some of them did not present traces of incineration; and the examination of the skulls and other samples excluded shooting as the cause of death.


The parts I emphasized in the above quotes show that the Poles reported finding traces of huge mass graves or a huge mass graves area, namely deep pits and ground saturated with human ashes and other remains, pointing to the incineration of corpses on a very large scale (2 ha = 20,000 square meters covered by human remains at Treblinka, with the depth of the graves found to be 7.5 meters; graves up to a depth of 6 meters or more at Belzec, with layers of ashes one or several meters thick, the “area of the cemetery” being covered with “layers of human ash of varying breadth”). Regarding Treblinka, it was explained in my article Polish investigations of the Treblinka killing site were a complete failure … that the data contained in the Polish investigation report are enough to establish that there was enough room in the killing area of Treblinka extermination camp to bury the bodies of at least the 713,555 Jews who, according to the report sent by SS-Sturmbannführer Höfle in Lublin on 11 January 1943 to Obersturmbannführer Heim in Krakow, were delivered at Treblinka until 31.12.1942, which means that the physical traces of the mass killing are compatible with the order of magnitude that becomes apparent from the documentary and demographic evidence. Regarding Belzec, comparison of the 1945 report with Prof. Kola’s findings shows that the 1945 commission found only a part of the mass graves identified by Kola in his 1997-1999 study, but also here the early Polish report makes Mr. Ugly Voice’s speculations about there eventually being no physical traces compatible with large-scale mass murder look rather ridiculous.

Why one should dismiss the reported results of these postwar Polish investigations Mr. Ugly Voice does not explain; apparently he believes that attributing them to “the Soviets and Soviet-installed governments” is enough to discredit these reports. Yet not only does the corroboration of the early Polish investigation results by evidence completely independent thereof (e.g. defendants’ depositions and eyewitness testimonies before West German courts and documents discovered by Western historians, like Höfle’s report to Heim of 11 January 1943) belie the notion that these reports were in any way manipulated, but the absence of manipulation also becomes apparent from the fact that the Poles sometimes openly stated that they were not able to identify certain features of the respective camp described by eyewitnesses, which a hypothetical superior entity interested in a “story” would certainly have required them to “identify”. Thus examining judge Lukaszkiewicz reported that he failed to find the location of the so-called “Lazarett” of Treblinka, where old and/or infirm deportees were bumped off so that they would not hold up the “processing” of the bulk of deportees at the gas chambers. He also didn’t find the foundations of the Treblinka gas chambers, which he would surely have “found” if he had “cooked” his report according to instructions received, as the “Revisionist” creed likes to claim or insinuate.

The absence of any reason to dismiss the results of the early Polish investigation reports in turn means that, on account of these reports alone, the examination of the physical evidence of the mass killing at the AR camps is by no means as poor as Mr. Ugly Voice would like it to be.

Of course it’s easier to indulge in whining and accusing speculations about why not “more” has been done in terms of physical examination than to explain why what has been done is supposed to be oh-so-woefully insufficient, which is why the former is what Mr. Ugly Voice dedicates most of this episode 18 to.

Mr. Ugly Voice tells his viewers that the «The lack of searching for physical evidence is shocking.» The reason why he considers this “lack” so “shocking” is a joke: because «scientists will do core sample studies on all sorts of things». Yeah, Mr. Ugly Voice, I’m sure they will, especially geologists, for whom core sample studies are a key method to establish geologically relevant events and developments. But here we are not talking about geological events and developments that a geologist’s work is about, we are talking about crimes and historical events and about the means that criminal investigators and/or historians have at their disposal and tend to use in order to reconstruct a crime or historical event.

So the question is, do these means necessarily include core sample studies or other soil examinations where the event in question is a large-scale mass murder? Can such event not be also and eventually better reconstructed by assessing documentary and demographic evidence and by interrogating participants in and witnesses to the crime? Are soil examinations standard procedures in forensic or historical investigations of mass killings, or are such events reconstructed also, chiefly or even exclusively by other means?

The mass killings of Jews and other undesirables by the Nazis may occupy a prominent place in the record of man-made horrors throughout history, but they are by no means the only such horrors. The Stalinist regime killed millions of its own citizens, and so did that of Mao Tse Tung in China. Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge murdered at least a million Cambodians between 1975 and 1979, and the Rwandan government had at least 500,000 members of the Tusti ethnicity slaughtered in 1994. These are but a few out of many possible examples regarding which I would be rather surprised if Mr. Ugly Voice or anyone else could show me that what we know about these mass killings is essentially based on detailed investigations of the physical evidence rather than on eyewitness testimonies, documentary evidence and demographic data. Stalin, for instance, had about 700,000 people executed in the course of his great purge in 1937/38, yet only a fraction of the mass graves containing these and other victims of Stalinist terror have been investigated. The same goes for the ca. 1.6 million victims of Stalin’s notorious penal camps. According to an investigation conducted in the 1970s by the West German Federal archives, Red Army troops killed about 24,500 German civilians at 2,620 crime sites east of the Oder and Neisse in 1944/45, yet nowhere did the investigating commission unearth any dead bodies or look at the soil underneath the killing sites, instead basing its conclusions exclusively on eyewitness reports from the various document collections related to the eastern lands. I also know of no site investigation conducted to establish the fate of any of the hundreds of thousands of Germans who lost their lives in the course of postwar expulsion from Poland, Czechoslovakia and other countries of Eastern Europe, many of whom were done to death in places like the infamous Lambinowice concentration camp in Silesia.

The list could be extended at will to cover many other large-scale crimes that “Revisionists” will hardly be “skeptical” about, especially such of Communist regimes, regarding which whatever investigations of physical evidence have taken place have covered but a relatively small part of the respective death toll, if any at all. If there is a “lack of searching for physical evidence” regarding Treblinka and the other Aktion Reinhard(t) camps, there is also such a “lack” regarding the overwhelming majority of mass killings not only throughout the past century, but throughout the whole of human history. Yet this “lack” has not kept historians or criminal investigators from reconstructing such historical events with a great degree of accuracy on the basis of other evidence, leaving no room for reasonable doubt as to the occurrence and magnitude of these events.

In what concerns the Aktion Reinhard(t) killing sites, there should also be taken into account two factors hindering physical investigations of the killing sites.

One is that, until about 15 years ago, these sites were in a country whose Communist dictatorship had, after the investigations conducted in the immediate postwar period, not shown much interest in supporting research about the mass killings at those camps – or, for that matter, at Auschwitz-Birkenau, the Hydrokop tests being a noteworthy exception to this rule. Jean-Claude Pressac wrote about this lack of interest on page 264 of his book AUSCHWITZ: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers:

After the work done by the Examining Judge, Jan Sehn. on the question, the Poles felt no need to probe any further. After Jan Sehn’s death in 1957, nobody thought to pursue or question his study of the Krematorien where the homicidal gas chambers were located, because the facts were considered to be obvious, as plain to see as the sun in the sky. What is more, a certain anti-semitic past, which ought to be forgotten in view of the vicissitudes suffered by the Poles since 1945, turned their historical research away from this field, where the findings were known and accepted, towards work on Polish resistance during the war for the survival of that country.


The other factor is related to the victims of the Aktion Reinhard(t) killings having been overwhelmingly Jews (though Romany were killed at those camps at well), and that Jewish religious beliefs prohibit disturbance of the peace of the dead. These religious considerations have led to enraged protests against the “desecration” caused by the soil investigations at Belzec, which are referred to in Part 1 of my article Carlo Mattogno on Belzec Archaeological Research:

[…]Last June, I warned on these pages that "Despite assurances by museum officials that 'we are being careful in construction not to disturb any human remains,' anyone familiar with the Belzec terrain, saturatedin its depth and breadth with the ashes and bones of the Jewish dead, knows that this is well nigh impossible."

With the recent publication of Andrzej Kola's book "Belzec: The Nazi Camp for Jews in the Light of Archaeological Sources," no one involved with the memorial project can claim ignorance of the desecration that has occurred.[…]


So we can see that, from the availability of more accurate means of establishing the death toll of these camps and the methodology of criminal investigation and historical research to considerations of religious piety, there are multiple reasons for the “lack of searching for physical evidence” bemoaned by Mr. Ugly Voice.

Yet our friend doesn’t see let alone mention any of these.

Instead his true believer’s one-track mind leads him to treat his readers to a crybaby session about what he claims to be the cause of said “lack”: the “harassment” that has come down on the poor “scientists” who have undertaken physical examinations of Nazi extermination sites in the past.

The “scientists” that our friend presents as victims of such “harassment” make this episode 18 a particularly laughable piece of horse manure.

One of them is Fred Leuchter, the pseudo-engineer commissioned by “Revisionist” guru Faurisson whose nonsense regarding cyanide traces in the gas chambers of Auschwitz-Birkenau, along with other ignorant and/or dishonest crap, was debunked years ago in the Leuchter FAQ series on the Nizkor site and is also exposed as what it is by Prof. van Pelt in his expert report submitted for the Irving-Lipstadt lawsuit.

The other is one of our steady customers, Mr. “Many Names” Rudolf, the guru of the “Revisionist” faith whose pseudo-scientific hoaxing, though more sophisticated than that of Leuchter, was thoroughly debunked by his professional colleague Dr. Richard Green, especially here and here.

If these ideologically motivated charlatans can be called scientists, then I’m the Pope of Rome, Minnesota.

Both of them have been “harassed”, for sure – by people who felt disgusted by their pseudo-scientific distortions in the service of anti-Semitic and/or Nazi-apologetic hate mongering and clearly expressed this opinion. Rudolf has also been prosecuted under German hate speech laws and is currently awaiting trial in Germany, which Mr. Ugly Voice apparently expects his viewers to start blobbing about. Yet neither the “harassment” nor Rudolf’s prosecution were related to those poor darlings merely having undertaken physical examinations of the Auschwitz-Birkenau mass killing site, as Mr. Ugly Voice would have it. They are related to both having consciously and willingly produced pseudo-scientific trash in order to deny proven historical facts that did not fit their ideological beliefs, built around admiration of the Nazi regime and/or loathing of Jews.

I don’t think much of the German hate speech laws under which Rudolf is being prosecuted, because I think nobody should be prosecuted for speaking or writing nonsense and also because such laws are counterproductive in that they give hate-mongering charlatans like Leuchter and Rudolf an excuse for the miserable results of their “research” and also a chance to portray themselves as martyrs. But as concerns the “harassment”, I think that crybaby whiners like Mr. Ugly Voice should bear in mind that free speech works both ways. On the one hand it gives people like Leuchter and Rudolf the right to utter any crackpot theory or other trash that comes into their minds. On the other hand, however, it gives people disgusted by such trash the right to openly and loudly say so and to tell the likes of Leuchter and Rudolf that and why they consider them to be full of shit.

So when these charlatans invoke the right of free speech, they should be aware that others have this right as well, and be prepared to bear the consequences. Complaining about “harassment” in reaction to their filth only shows what hypocrites and pussies these people are.

No, Mr. Ugly Voice, it’s not the “harassment”. Honest and objective researchers who stick to evidence and facts have no “harassment” let alone legal prosecution to fear, be it in the United States or in countries where hate speech legislation is applied. Only charlatans who convert their “research” into mendacious pamphlets supporting a hate-speech agenda are subject to such consequences – but then, they will only be getting what they were looking for.

After he has finished crying about the plight of his darling “scientists” Leuchter and Rudolf, Mr. Ugly Voice advertises one of the legacies that Rudolf has left on the VHO website, Mattogno’s Belzec in Propaganda, Testimonies, Archaeological Research, and History [large PDF]. He focuses on the chapter dedicated to Prof. Kola’s archaeological research and essentially regurgitates Mattogno’s claims that are the subject of my article Carlo Mattogno on Belzec Archaeological Research.

Ugly Voice starts out with the inane remark that Prof. Andrzej Kola and his team were “handpicked” and commissioned by the USHMM and a Polish “Holocaust rememberance group” and that it’s unlikely that these entities picked someone who had any possibility of finding things that didn’t support the “story”. Ever heard about conspiraloons, Mr. Ugly Voice? Well, you should, because you definitely are one.

After this showpiece of imbecility, Mr. Ugly Voice uses a “simplified” map of Prof. Kola’s findings drawn by Robin O'Neill to spin crap about the mass graves identified by Prof. Kola that he obviously took from Mattogno: some of the graves have irregular shapes, the graves are all over the camp site, the graves are aligned in a fashion that is not “military” and also not sanitary, and all of that goes against the coulda-shoulda-woulda – thinking that “Revisionists” are so fond of. All of this nonsense was already addressed in Part 2 and in section 4.6 of my article Carlo Mattogno on Belzec Archaeological Research, where it was explained that

• the graves, as described by Kola, are concentrated in the western and north-western part of the camp area on the one hand and in the eastern part of the camp area on the other, the former lying close together whereas the latter are more scattered;

• aligning the graves close to each other in a “military” fashion might have led to grave walls too thin and thus subject to collapsing in sandy soil like that at Belzec, and also made the removal of the soil taken out of the graves more difficult;

• most of the graves have the form of squares or rectangles, and where there are irregular shapes, as especially in the case of grave no. 14, it is reasonable to assume that these resulted from changes to the original grave structure, due to the camp staff’s ash disposal and leveling work at the end of the camp’s operation or to postwar robbery digs; and

• the SS personnel of Aktion Reinhard(t) were no military trained specialists in grave digging, but came mostly from the previous Aktion T4, the killing of physically and mentally disabled patients in mental health institutions falsely dubbed "euthanasia", and are unlikely to have undergone proper military training.

As to Mr. Ugly Voice’s ensuing superposition of O’Neill’s “simplified” map and a map shown in Yitzhak Arad’s book on the Aktion Reinhard(t) camps, I would like to be able to say that this is Mr. Ugly Voice’s own baloney and not something taken from Mattogno. Alas, it isn’t, for on pages 75 f. of his Belzec book Mattogno writes that

(...) an examination of the map of Belzec as published by Arad forces one to conclude that the quarters of the Ukrainian guards, the hygienic installations (barbers, infirmary, dentists for the SS and the Ukrainians), the kitchen for the Ukrainian guards, the garage, and the shoemakers’ and tailors’ workshops (shown on the map as numbers 3, 4, 5, 7 and 8) were located right next to mass graves or even on top of them!


As Arad’s map is not drawn to scale and does not claim to accurately portray the relative sizes, positions and distances of the camp objects shown on it, it’s rather silly to make a fuss about “inconsistencies” revealed by comparing this map with that of Kola or with O’Neill’s “simplified” version thereof – a rhetorical gag for suckers that I'm not surprised to see from a 3rd-rate rambler like Mr. Ugly Voice, yet would have expected the great guru Mattogno to do without. But then, as I wrote at the end of part 5 of the aforementioned article, the comparatively talented Mr. Mattogno is also just another hoaxing “Revisionist”.

Ugly Voice’s regurgitation of Mattogno’s stuff about Kola’s Belzec study continues in episode 19 of the video, which will be the subject of my next article on this blog. Stay tuned.