A message to Mr. Wilfried "neugierig" Heink

Hi there, Mr. Heink,

I see you are again posting on the "CODOH Revisionist Forum", which you once (in what I presume was one of your brighter moments) condemned in very clear terms (post # 26 on the thread "A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ..." of the extinct RODOH forum, screenshot after the cut).

A message to Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis

The extinct RODOH forum's most visited thread, "A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ...", is being reconstructed on the RODOH 2 forum.

Available so far:

Posts # 1 to # 10

Posts # 11 to # 20.

Enjoy reading, Jonnie!

Wilfried Heink lies

In a recent thread on the RODOH forum, Wilfried Heink ("neugierig"), the rabid old Nazi who together with Thomas Kues runs the Inconvenient History blog, disgraced himself by falsely claiming that a recent German research publication endorses the notion of homicidal gassing with diesel exhaust.

Jewish Laws on Mass Graves

On the Incoherent History blog, Wilfried Heink writes this about Jamlitz:

Jewish burial laws/concerns? Not true either: In 2010 a whole area of the former Sachsenhausen sub-camp Lieberose near Jamlitz was dug up, looking for the graves of 753 Jews allegedly murdered there. A Rabbi was present, giving his blessings to the excavations. The whole site was turned upside-down, no regards for any burial laws, but nothing found.

However, a search of the original newspaper reports prior to the excavation reveals this information:

Once the remains are found and reburied according to Orthodox Jewish ritual, a memorial site will be established, according to Brandenburg Interior Minister Joerg Schoenbohm.

It therefore follows that Mr Heink has erected a Straw Man. In reality, Jewish law permits the reburial of human remains in certain very limited circumstances, which are open to interpretation and dispute among religious authorities (see here and here). Moreover, reburial is not an option at the Aktion Reinhard sites because remains there were cremated and the remaining bones after the cremation were pummeled by an ash crew.

Furthermore, whilst Heink is correct that no remains were found in 2009, he omits the fact (stated in his own source) that 589 bodies had been located nearby in 1958 and 1971.

Wilfried Heink spells it out

In his RODOH post 4332 on the thread New Revisionist Videos, Wilfried Heink, who together with Thomas Kues runs the Inconvenient History blog, spelled out very clearly what he considers the purpose of his "Revisionist" activity to be.

Meanwhile, on the "CODOH Revisionist Forum" ...

... my old friend Drew J (who obviously knows that my CODOH account has not yet been reactivated, for he refers to the previous blog and thereby signals that he's interested in what we write here) is again mouthing off about me, thereby displaying a miserable personality and (as he claims to have bested me here and there) his delusions of adequacy.

Yet another antisemitic Nazi-lover writing for "Inconvenient history" blog

Canadian citizen (German emigre) Wilfried Heink posts at CODOH's "Inconvenient History" blog (see "About us" page and his postings). Recently he wrote the following at RODOH forum (my emphasis):

This is exactly what the National Socialists wanted for Germany, to have a Germany for Germans and to preserve that Aryan bloodline. Here is part of the Nürnberg law:

5. Nur der Deutsche, der sich zur deutschen Kultur – und Schicksalsgemeinschaft bekennt, kann staatsbürgerliche Rechte ausüben

(only those Germans who acknowledges to be part of German culture and destiny can carry out civic duties)

Hitler had the right to decide who lives in Germany and who did not. Jews are never part of the Schicksalsgemeinschaft they live in, regardless of what country it is. Therefore, they are strangers and subject to removal. This is what the National Socialists wanted, the Jews out of Germany. And that is all the Mohawk’s want, I doubt however that they will be allowed to succeed. And we have to remember that the Indians, in spite of all the make believe, are not sovereign nations.

Israel practices this and would get rid of the remaining Palestinians in an instance, but this can not be compared to the situation in Germany, and indeed to that in Quebec. The Jews claiming to be original Hebrews from Judea, or wherever, are not, and have therefore no right to push the aboriginals out. Germany on the other hand has been populated by Germanic tribes for centuries, ditto for the Indians. And yes, if it can be proven that the land I purchased and live on is still land owned by the Indians, I would have to move, but that is another issue altogether.

First there was neo-Nazi Carolyn Yeager [1, 2, 3], now this.

Arme Auschwitz-Leugner.

Richard Widmann, Harry Elmer Barnes and Operation Barbarossa

Richard Widmann's Inconvenient History journal claims to be promoting peace in the tradition of Revisionist historian Harry Elmer Barnes (see here). However, the vast gulf between the views of the Barnes school and the columnists of Inconvenient History regarding Germany's invasion of the USSR suggest that the journal is exploiting Barnes' name without adhering to his actual views.

Kudos to Mr. Wilfried Heink …

... for this unusually honest and almost reasonable post on the CODOH Cesspit (emphasis added):

Just to follow up. Prof. Dr. Seidler wrote back to inform me that there is no mention of any Fackelmänner Befehl on NARA Serie 429, Roll 461, confirming what Hartmann/Zarusky wrote in their IfZ article. Prof. Seidler had mentioned this Befehl in his "Verbrechen an der Wehrmacht", relying on Fritz Becker (Stalins Blutspur durch Europa…"). He, Prof. Seidler, had contacted NARA, asking them for details re. this roll. Nothing happened, thus he ordered it and found out that he had been led down the garden path by Becker. He is understandably perturbed by this, writing that this sort of thing is not helpful. Agreed, and neither is this nonsense article posted on metapedia.

Hartmann/Zarusky provide a German translation of Stavka 0428, it exists, according to them, minus the uniform part. But, the order is useful for our cause without it, Stalin ordered all villages 20-30 km behind German lines destroyed, making it impossible to determine who did what. This should at least raise some doubt as to "blame the Germans for everything". Maisky, the Soviet envoy in London, apparently told Eden, in November 1941, that it had been a hard task to destroy all that had been build up since the revolution and that millions upon millions had to be evacuated (W. P. and Zelda K. Coates, "Vom Interventen yum Alliierten 1917-1942 – Die Geschichte der English-sowjetischen Beziehungen). I’ve ordered the book and will keep interested parties posted. I could also translate the order as provided by Hartmann/Zarusky if anyone is interested.

Regards

Wilf

"The Climate Swindle vs. the Holo-Lie"

Some RODOH Holocaust deniers' reactions to the latest manufactured "Climategate" nontroversy are interesting. Here's the old Nazi-Canadian Wilfried Heink:

Similarities between the "Great Climate Swindle" and the "Great Holo-Lie", taken from "timesonline":

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936289.ece

"[T]his weekend it emerged that the unit has thrown away much of the data. Tucked away on its website is this statement: "Data storage availability in the 1980s meant that we were not able to keep the multiple sources for some sites ... We, therefore, do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (ie, quality controlled and homogenised) data." (True for "The Holocaust", as well, besides, archives are still locked)

If true, it is extraordinary. It means that the data on which a large part of the world's understanding of ("The Holocaust") climate change is based can never be revisited or checked. Pielke said: "Can this be serious? It is now impossible to create a (real Holo body count) new temperature index from scratch. [The unit] is basically saying, 'Trust us'." (Are you listening, nickterry?)

WHERE does this leave the ("Holocaust") climate debate? While the overwhelming belief of scientists is that ("The Holocaust" happened) the world is getting warmer and that (Germans) humanity (are) is responsible, sceptical voices are increasing.

Lord Lawson, the Tory former chancellor, announced last week the creation of the Global Warming Policy Foundation, a think tank, to "bring reason, integrity and balance to a debate that has become seriously unbalanced, irrationally alarmist, and all too often depressingly intolerant" (this is yet to happen re. "The Holocaust").

Lawson said: "("The Holocaust") Climate change is not being properly debated because all the political parties are on the same side, and there is an intolerance towards anybody who wants to debate it. It has turned ("The Holocaust") climate change from being a political issue into a secular religion."

But, the time will come when "The Holocaust" will also fall by the wayside.
Arme True Believers, armes Deutschland.

Then there's this, by another lemming:

Nick Terry always likened Global Warming Denial to HD when he was trying to tar us all with the brush of lunacy and conspiracy mania. I think GWD and HD sit together very comfortably. I say screw the totalitarian liberals and their desperate desire to control thought.

Yikes!

Update: there's more!

Beyond even Chutzpah

In his post of Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:34 am on the CODOH "Revisionist" forum, Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis, one of the lowliest pieces of garbage in the "Revisionist" cesspool, treats newcomer "Potpie" to yet another session of his hollow and cowardly breastbeating:

For Roberto Muehlenkamp / aka Cortavagatas, simply use our search function for Muehlenkamp and read, there's plenty of debate with him here. The poor man never had a chance.

One wonders why, if I "never had a chance" against "Revisionist" brilliance, poor Hargis found it necessary to delete all those posts of mine, which I have collected on this thread, among others, and eventually ban me from his lovely place.

Or why, if "Revisionists" have such superior arguments, so few of them show up for real open debate on uncensored boards like RODOH and the biggest mouth of them all, Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis, never dares to leave his warm and cozy Führerbunker.

Not all "Revisionists" gratefully swallow "Hannover" Hargis’ mendacious bragging, however. Some of them have realized what the fellow is all about. One of these is Mr. Wilfried Heink aka "neugierig", who in his RODOH post 18-Dec-2006 19:29 wrote the following:

I agree, Herr Muehlankamp, those guys over there are not entirely honest. Banning you and others and then performing victory dances is beyond even chutzpah. Hopefully this new poster, if he is new, will soon realize that dissenting views, if you will, are verboten.

As far as pointing him to RODOH, the name can not be mentioned, it is deleted. One of my posts was totally distorted, I dared mention RODOH, should have copied it, which almost made me quit that forum. Anyway, who knows, perhaps this lost sheep will find its way.

Not that Mr. Heink’s arguments are usually any better than those of his brothers-in-spirit, though he is one of the few "Revisionists" who at least tries to do some homework, but the above was an unexpected display of common sense for which I duly congratulated the old man.

A word now to the unhappy "PotPie", who claims that the HC blog’s contributors are "obsessed by this board and those who post here": apart from the amusement value of one or the other particular instructive showpiece of "Revisionist" imbecility, whether in quoted scripture from some vaunted guru or the CODOH yelpers’ own "wisdom", the only reason for one of us to pay any attention to the CODOH cesspit and its sorry inhabitants is their occasional mouthing off about him. That aside, we couldn’t care less about what these candy-ass losers write.

Ah, and in case anyone is wondering why Hargis & Co. are currently rambling away against our contributor Andrew Mathis: the probable reason is that this challenge of Andrew’s has meanwhile been brought to "Hannover"’s knowledge.

What do deniers give each other for Christmas?

Though there's a school of radical revisionists which holds to the view that Christmas is in fact a gigantic Hoax perpetrated by the retail industry on the world every year, the fact remains that to the best of our knowledge, the majority of our erstwhile opponents, in print and online, celebrate Christmahannukwanzakaa. Well, maybe not the -hannukwanzakaa bit, but you know what I'm talking about.

Yes, it's that time of year, Yuletide Eve, when even diehard Holocaust deniers must surely be gathering round the chimney, not in order to examine it for any traces of carbonised corpses, but to await whatever it is Santa and his little helpers have brought the happy revisionist household that year. All of which begs the question: what could, would or should Holocaust deniers be getting for Christmas?

Answers below the fold...


For some, the answer's fairly easy. For others, we can only speculate.

We're pretty sure that IHR maven Greg Raven will be getting that cut-price bargain video of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes' fairytale wedding that the Church of Scientology must be marketing to their flock of sheep right about now.

IHR boss Mark Weber, meanwhile, is surely to be given his 25th 'how to complete your book manuscript' guide, seeing as how it's been only 25 years since he wrote to David Irving promising the revisionist blockbuster The Final Solution: Legend and Reality. And maybe a thesaurus as well.

Paul Grubach will get a letter-writing kit so he can practice the calligraphy of his signature for his next missive to a head-of-state or chief executive of an NGO.

Friedrich Paul Berg will be given his umpteenth model German truck to play with, though we also suspect that he may well be rewarded with a year-long prescription to anti-Alzheimer's drug Aricept.

David Irving, meanwhile, will surely get a copy of the critical edition of the Anne Frank Diary from daughter Jessica, a smack in the gob from Bente and his own TV series from Fox entitled Desperate Louse Lies. Without, we hasten to add, any sign of Teri Hatcher or Eva Longoria on-set. Dang!

Richard Krege will get a new lawnmower specially designed to trim in between the patio stones, or the Treblinka monument, so that it'll be dual-purpose.

Joe Bellinger gets a complete annotated and mistranslated set of the Talmud.

Christopher Bollyn is getting a downloaded copy of 'Loose Change' on a CD-ROM. And a Christmas card scrawled 'FUCK YOU' from his former buddies at AFP.

Ingrid Rimland will give hubby Ernst Zündel a matchbook with the ad saying "if you can draw Skippy, you can earn big money as an artist".

Ernst will give Ingrid "some good German black bread" and another yeat of not having to sleep with him.

Robert Faurisson, we're assured, will be receiving a signed first-edition of J-B. Peres' classic 1827 work How Napoleon Never Existed, Or, The Great Error, Source Of An Infinite Number Of Errors To Be Seen In The History Of The Nineteenth Century, which he will hate since it pre-dates his trademark 'Ajax method' by 150 years. But them's the breaks.

Apparently, Carlo Mattogno and Robert Faurisson stopped exchanging Christmas cards in 1995, but there's been no communication breakdown within the Mattogno family. This means that Mattogno's brother, Catholic fundamentalist antisemite Gian Pio, will no doubt be gifting his sibling yet another copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, this time in Polish, which will cause bro' Carlo to grit his teeth and make a wan but sickly smile in front of the aunts and uncles of the Mattogno clan, but which he will rush away the instant the family dinner is over to devour.

The rest of the Mattogno family have apparently clubbed together to get Carlo a barbecue grill to replace the one he set on fire accidentally conducting impromptu cremation experiments with salt beef, since this was the most Jewish meat he could think of trying to carbonise.

Jürgen Graf will find all the latest Ron Jeremy DVDs in his stocking, so that Graf can reassure himself that Jewish pornstars really do have bigger penises than he does.

Alas, poor Sylvia Stolz won't be getting what she wants for Weihnachten this year, a little (Horst) Mahler, and will have to make do with a black-white-red-painted dildo instead. Double alas, the patriotically-painted dildo will turn out to be a leftover from the days of the Kameradschaften so Stolz will try and take it back to the store in case Michael Kühnen sat on it once.

Germar Rudolf's another one who's spending Xmas behind bars, but thanks to his personal website, we know what he put on his wishlist long ago. Mainly really bad 80s pop music and oldies, so it's been decided chez Rudolf that the young boy needs livening up, and thus he'll be receiving Slayer's 'Reign in Blood' and Tool's 'Undertow' albums instead. To complement the Tool CD, he'll also be getting rear-opening pajamas.

Alexander Baron will get the new book 'How to Live on a Prison Diet'.

But let's not forget our online friends at alt.revisionism, the Cesspit and RODOH.

Scott Smith, our favourite denier and owner of RODOH, is probably getting another model German truck like his friend Freaky Freddy Berg.

Claudia Rothenbach is to get a gift certificate to pay for gender-reassignment surgery at Johns Hopkins.

A.S. Marques will be getting a case of King Oliver sardines.

RiverCola will be getting a bullet in the head followed by an exhaustive forensic examination by a neutral commission of investigators, who will then present the results to him in his coffin.

For SeymoreG, we've heard that Martha Stewart's Ephraimite Guide To Entertaining has been wrapped up and placed under the tree down under in New Zealand.

His fellow Kiwi Lurkerthe/rodohcodohwatchwatch is being given free psychiatric therapy.

For Herr Wilf 'neugierig' Heink, a set of rabbit hutches and some lettuce.

A crate of Sterno for Matt Giwer.

Tom Moran gets a set of teach-yourself language cassettes. In English.

New tinfoil and a special Xmassy tinsel variant for Scott Bradbury's hat.

IlluSionS667 is being abducted for a get-away-from-it-all holiday season break inside the alien mothership at Newschwabenland.

And finally, Jonny 'Hannover' Hargis, circus ringmaster of CODOH forum, is getting some very special gifts from the cast of The Wizard of Oz: a heart, a brain and some courage....


Merry Christmahannukwanzakaa everybody!

Lying about Wiernik

An old Nazi from Canada, Wilfried Heink, who, in absence of any serious knowledge about the Holocaust, likes to spout deniers' arguments at RODOH, without ever realizing that they're nothing but BS, has recently brought up an old canard about Yankel Wiernik's sketches, which was invented by our favorite victims, Mattogno and Graf. He writes:

Ok, enough for now, but there is more, so, stay tuned. Here then is the map which accompanied this report, or so we are told. Mattogno/Graf in their above mentioned book give it the following caption:

“Plan of Treblinka, enclosed with the Report of November 15, 1942. From: Krystyna Marczewska and Wladyslaw Wazniewski, “Treblinka w swietle akt Delegatury Rzadu na Kraj” (Treblinka in Light of the Documents of the Government Delegation for the Country), in: Biuletyn Glownej Komisji Badania Zbrodni Hitlerowskich w Polsce, Volume XIX, Warsaw 1968, p. 141.”


The similarity between this map and that of Wiernik is remarkable.

So, let's turn to Heink's source, M&G's Treblinka book, and examine their claims.

Mattogno and Graf write (links to images are included):

Document 4 in the Appendix shows the plan of Treblinka, which Wiernik has published in order to lend credibility to his claims. In reality, he quite simply copied the plan, which was enclosed with the report about the steam chambers dating from November 15, 1942 (see Document 2 in the Appendix).
Both plans bear the same designation: “Treblinka. Szkic orientacyjny” (Treblinka, orientation sketch); both depict the same map legends; and, on both, the facilities are numbered 1 through 26, which indeed is explained in the report of November 15, 1942, but not, however, in Wiernik‘s exposition. The first three “extermination chambers,” which in the report of November 15, 1942, are called “steam chambers,” but in that of Wiernik are called “gas chambers,” are designated by the number 14 in both plans. Correspondingly, a boiler room for the production of steam is represented by number 15a in the report of November 15, 1942, and in Wiernik‘s plan it is a gassing engine. In addition, the description of the two gassing installations – the first with three and the second with ten chambers – fully and completely corresponds to the report of November 15, 1942, and to the camp plan which was enclosed with it!
Precisely for the reason that it is the fruit of plagiarism, Wiernik‘s sketch has a paucity of features of this kind: not only are many buildings of the camp missing, but also the cremation grills, although he wrote his report in the year 1944. Wiernik ‘rectified’ his error only in 1945 by furnishing a new, ‘corrected’ plan of Treblinka. If one compares this with that of the year before, the plagiarism shows up even more glaringly. On the occasion of Session 66 of the Jerusalem Eichmann Trial, Wiernik produced the plan from 1945, which entered the records as Document T-1300, yet mendaciously claimed to have drawn it in the year 1943.
Thus it is clear that Wiernik quite simply plagiarized the plan of the report of November 15 and in doing so replaced the word “steam chambers” with “gas chambers”. Why did he do this? Presumably he was of the opinion – and to be sure with good reason – that the then current versions of mass murders in Treblinka were too simpleminded. On the other hand, the idea of the engine compellingly suggested itself.

First of all, to accuse Wiernik of plagiarism, Mattogno and Graf have to show that Wiernik claimed to have produced the sketch published in his book. Did he ever claim this? Not to my knowledge. And Mattogno and Graf never cite any source which states that Wiernik claimed to be the author of the sketch.

The book was not "published" by Wiernik - he was the author, but the book was published by the Jewish Coordinating Commission in Poland. Most probably, they had an access to 1942 underground report and simply included the sketch from this report (in a "corrected" form) with the book.

Now, the sketch published by Friedman in 1945 is indeed authored by Wiernik, according to his own testimony. M&G claim that "if one compares this with that of the year before, the plagiarism shows up even more glaringly". Really? When I compare, I see two different sketches, which are similar, because they depict the same camp. No evidence of plagiarism in this instance has been provided.

M&G also accuse Wiernik of lying during the Eichmann trial. But all they show is that 1) they haven't read Wiernik's testimony during that trial in full; 2) they simply can't read English. Here's what Wiernik said:

Q. After the War, immediately following the War, you drew a sketch of Treblinka?

A. Yes. This is it, here. I drew it. I prepared it when I was still underground, after my liberation in 1943, I drew it. I was working in Warsaw, in the Tashitza Palace. I worked as a Pole.

Attorney General: I submit the sketch which the witness made at the time.

Presiding Judge: This will be marked T/1300.

According to M&G, T/1300 is the sketch published by Friedman in 1945. Let's take their word for this.

M&G write:

Wiernik produced the plan from 1945, which entered the records as Document T-1300, yet mendaciously claimed to have drawn it in the year 1943

Let's examine two questions:

1) Did Wiernik claim to have drawn the sketch in 1943?
2) Does the fact that the sketch was published in 1945 mean that it was drawn in 1945, and not earlier?

The answers are as follows:

1a) No. He claimed to have drawn it after his liberation (which happened in 1943), while still in underground. I.e., M&G can't comprehend English.

1b) Later in the testimony Wiernik was asked more questions about the sketch T/1300:

Judge Halevi: [to witness] When you were a member of the Armia Ludowa, was it then that you drew this sketch?

Witness Wiernik: I prepared it when I was working in Warsaw in the Tashitza Palace. The SS was there on the one side, and I was a night watchman against air attacks - I also have a certificate about that. I used to sit there at night. Nobody disturbed me, and I gradually made that sketch.

Q. Do you remember in what month and what year you drew this sketch?

A. It was in 1944. It took a long time. I also wrote A Year in Treblinka. In 1944, it was already in America, via the underground.

So he explicitly said that he drew it in 1944. I.e., M&G didn't even read his rather short testimony in full.

2) The answer to this question is a simple "No". An obvious non sequitur.

So, what is left of M&G's charge of plagiarism against Wiernik? Only their own mendacity.

Update: see Still lying about Wiernik... and others.