Mattogno on the Mass Graves at Ponary (Part 1)

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Introduction

This is the first of a series of articles discussing Carlo Mattogno’s claims and arguments regarding mass graves at the Ponary mass killing site near Vilnius, Lithuania. It is based on the 153rd of my posts on the forum of the "Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust" that was censored (i.e. "disapproved" or truncated beyond recognition, in both cases on the flimsiest of mendacious pretexts, or deleted after publication) since early July 2017 (the number would be higher if my job had not been such a hustle in the past months, leaving little if any time for pastimes both online and offline). Said censorship is further proof of what is already common knowledge, namely that open debate on the Holocaust is the last thing that said "Committee" is interested in and wishes to provide.

Commendably none other than Friedrich Paul Berg, one of the least commendable exponents of Holocaust denial, expressed his opinion about CODOH censorship with unusual frankness. He gets points for that.

That said, I move on to the first article of this series, which owes much to the gratefully acknowledged, very valuable input of my fellow bloggers Jonathan Harrison, Nick Terry and Sergey Romanov.

Reconstructing "A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ..." (2)

Reconstructing "A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ..." (1)

In the previous blog of this series, I reproduced posts nos. 1 to 7 from the extinct RODOH forum’s thread "A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ...".

In this blog I reproduce posts # 8 to # 10 from that thread. These posts dealt with matters related to corpse cremation at the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration and extermination camp.

Reconstructing "A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ..." (1)

The extinct RODOH forum's most visited thread, "A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ...", was being reconstructed on the RODOH 2 forum.

As that forum was also deleted, a partial reconstruction will be done in several blogs, starting with this one, mostly by inserting the screenshots from the original RODOH thread "A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ..." as images, which can be enlarged to a readable size by clicking on them and viewed in slideshow sequence. Where posts considered of interest are available in MS Word format, the text of such posts will also be transcribed in blog format, after some editing to replace German special letters and punctuation marks that got lost in the original RODOH forum's migration to Yuku. Spelling errors will also be corrected, and bare links converted into embedded links, but otherwise the text reproduced will be the same that was posted on the RODOH forum, as can be verified on hand of the corresponding screenshots. Red letters highlight the posts’ sequential numbers on the thread as well as links that were lost when the RODOH forum was deleted.

A message to Mr. Wilfried "neugierig" Heink

Hi there, Mr. Heink,

I see you are again posting on the "CODOH Revisionist Forum", which you once (in what I presume was one of your brighter moments) condemned in very clear terms (post # 26 on the thread "A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ..." of the extinct RODOH forum, screenshot after the cut).

Meanwhile, on the "CODOH Revisionist Forum" ....

... Friedrich Paul Berg indulges in some of his hilarious wishful thinking, as he writes the following:

A message to Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis

The extinct RODOH forum's most visited thread, "A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ...", is being reconstructed on the RODOH 2 forum.

Available so far:

Posts # 1 to # 10

Posts # 11 to # 20.

Enjoy reading, Jonnie!

"Hannover" Hargis tells some more lies

This month's first blog is dedicated to my old friend Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis, well known on the scene as the cowardly and mendacious lead-foot censor who moderates the "Revisionist" cesspit known as the "CODOH Revisionist Forum". Hargis now also writes for a pamphlet called "Smith’s Report", where he has a column in which he presents past exchanges on the CODOH forum.

Some CODOH "Revisionists" made a fuss ...

... about one of the photo collections available on this blog site.

As usual when CODOH "Revisionists" mouth off about me or this blog site, their antics are commented on the RODOH thread A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis .... See my posts 13089, 13090, 13091, 13092, 13093 and 13094.

CODOH needs volunteers

After the call for money comes the call for volunteers willing to work for free in order to protect their right to a free exchange of ideas and support intellectual freedom (if Bradley Smith were serious about either, he would first of all remove the censoring moderators on the CODOH discussion forum, especially Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis).

The first message that greats would-be volunteers features a picture of an armored lady with a sword (presumably Jeanne d'Arc):



No comments.

CODOH needs money

The misnamed "Comittee for Open Debate on the Holocaust" now greets viewers of its website with a call for help.

Meanwhile, on the "CODOH Revisionist Forum" ...

... sorry figures are again shooting off their mouths.

The account reactivation issue ...

... has been settled the way of Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis, by converting an expired temporary ban into a permanent ban. See my RODOH post 11987, which also features another of Hargis' mendacious "Muehlenkamp got demolished" victory dances and the following manifestation of gratitude by Drew J:

Always ready with the old topic references. I love it. I have only read about the coke and the hosing of the chambers. Now I have more to read. Thanks Hannover. Always there for us.

"Always there for us". Touching, isn't it?

Meanwhile, on the "CODOH Revisionist Forum" ...

... my old friend Drew J (who obviously knows that my CODOH account has not yet been reactivated, for he refers to the previous blog and thereby signals that he's interested in what we write here) is again mouthing off about me, thereby displaying a miserable personality and (as he claims to have bested me here and there) his delusions of adequacy.

Hi there, Mr. CODOH Forum Moderator

Could you please reactivate my account?

Ban period is over.

Update, 21.02.2010 13:51 hours GMT: Still waiting for reactivation.

Update, 22.02.2010 08:20 hours GMT: Still waiting for reactivation.

Update, 22.02.2010 23:17 hours GMT: Still waiting for reactivation. What's the matter?

Update, 23.02.2010 23:53 hours GMT: Still waiting for reactivation. Are they afraid of me?

Update, 27.02.2010 12:46 hours GMT: Still waiting for reactivation. It seems they are afraid of me indeed.

Update, 07.03.2010 11:22 hours GMT: Still waiting for reactivation. Meanwhile, on the "CODOH Revisionist forum ...

Mr. Gerdes drives another nail into the "Revisionist" coffin

On the "CODOH Revisionist Forum" (where my account has not yet been reactivated even though the one-month period of the ban decreed on 19.01.2010 has already expired; I have sent an e-mail to the moderator requesting reactivation), my old friend Greg Gerdes accomplished something extraordinary for his low intellect and character.

CODOH: The Forum That Moderated Itself to Death

by Jason Willis Myers

[Jason posted at different Internet forums for quite some time as "Wahrheit" and "Wahrheitseeker". Until recently he was a Holocaust denier. His voluminous output at CODOH, RODOH and elsewhere prevents any suspicion of him being an anti-"revisionist" mole. He was also one of the people at the root of "Inconvenient History" blog, though his contributions seem to have vanished. Not so long ago he has changed his views - a story to be told in the future, that's for sure.

 We think that what Jason has to say in this article is interesting and instructive.

 Note that HC team does not necessarily agree with opinions expressed by our guest bloggers or guarantee the accuracy of all their claims.]

CODOH: The Forum That Moderated Itself to Death

On February 8, 2010 I was permanently banned from the CODOH Revisionist forum. Ostensibly, the justification for my ban was my "pre-meditated" change of heart regarding the veracity of the "Holocaust tale", and my efforts to "dupe" CODOH readers.

That I had been a revisionist from 2005 to fall 2009 is clear, but after further study of the relevant literature, I decided that the evidence for a Nazi program of extermination was simply too overwhelming to deny any longer. More will be said of my change at a later time, but after hundreds of posts at the CODOH, RODOH, and History Channel forums arguing the revisionist case, and much work behind the scenes on various revisionist projects, I find the charge that I was "faking" as a revisionist the whole time to be ridiculous, to say the least.

Closed Debate is Open Debate

Deniers often claim that the Holocaust 'industry' is 'Orwellian'. But it is our old friend Jonnie Hargis who practices the ultimate form of Doublethink on the subject of free speech. He states here that:

I can't think of any regular at this forum that hasn't had a post deleted for one reason or an other. You have to understand that the emphasis here is on debate that is free of subject changing, distortion, namecalling, and dodging, etc. Without our very basic guidelines (which are not unusual, they are generally found in moderated debates), we would end up with very confusing threads ... unfortunately that is exactly what some desire.

The Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust is therefore promoting closed debate.

Is this fellow dumb ...

... or just playing dumb?

In his CODOH post of Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:12 am, Drew J triumphantly comments:

Blatt is claiming a diesel engine was used for murder. That's funny. I thought Roberto and Sergy already declared the diesel engine moot and were instead trying to focus on petrol engines as the real culprit instead.

CODOH Censorship Supreme

Less than a week after my re-admission to the "CODOH Revisionist Forum", my old collection of censored posts has already grown considerably, given that almost everything I posted on CODOH since my readmission has been either deleted after publication or – in most cases – not published at al.

Deniers Who Favour the Prosecution of Free Speech (Part 2)

In this radio interview, starting at 22 minutes, 19 seconds, Carolyn Yeager states:

The point I want to make is that I think the time has come that while...we have debunked so much...the only way to go forward is through the courts...The European people founded this country and we can't go into our own courts, because they have been taken over. We need to use our courts for ourselves.

At 35:28, she says:

If they attack us in the courts, I think we should be going after them in the courts based on they cannot back up what they say.

This advocate of using courts to prosecute free speech writes for the Inconvenient History blog, which claims be founded on...the protection of free speech.