Tuesday, September 18, 2007

“The Stroop Report is a Forgery” (Part 2)

[Continued from The Stroop Report is a Forgery” (Part 1)]


Denierbud’s forgery claim strongly relies on the stance that certain contents of the Stroop Report are not in line with what “one” would expect them to be. What apparently bugs him most is that the report describes no members of Stroop’s forces being killed by explosives used by their opponents, and that the casualties of Stroop’s forces are too low to be “believable”. So in the following I will have a look at these arguments.

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3. “No Deadly Explosions” (item B of the section “A Fraudulent Commemoration Book”)

Apparently influenced by the present-day experience of US troops fighting insurgents in Iraq, denierbud considers the comparative inefficiency of Jewish resistance to Stroop’s forces that becomes apparent from the Stroop Report (no mention of Germans killed by Jewish bombs and grenades, only one ambush on April 19 with no Germans reported killed, no mention of booby traps) to be an indication against the document’s authenticity:

The author who impersonates General Jürgen Stroop forgets to have the Jews effectively use bombs or grenades in the nearly month-long battle. The author has the Germans capturing bombs and grenades but forgets to have the Jews using them. Similarly, in the daily reports, there is only one instance of an ambush on the Germans. That occured on the first day, April 19. But if you look at the dead and wounded list (at the beginning of the report) you'll see that no Germans died in that ambush. Also telltale is there is no instance of the Jews ever booby trapping a road, a door, a sewer entrance, or a dugout. The author either forgot to have the Jews do that, or she didn't want to elicit sympathy for the Germans by including any instances of it. We're supposed to believe that Jewish commander Mordecai Anielewicz never tried such strategies.


First of all, denierbud’s allegations reveal him to be a dishonest propagandist when he points out that no Germans are reported to have been killed in the “ambush” on 19 April 1943, described by Stroop in his teletype report of 20 April 1943. That much is true, but it is also true that Stroop mentions to have sustained losses of “12 men (6 SS-men, 6 Trawniki-men)” in that “ambush”, and that the list of wounded at the start of the report shows 19 April 1943 to have been the day with the highest number of wounded in the entire month-long operation (24 out of a total of 85 wounded between 19 April and 16 May 1943 or ca. 28 % of the total reported for a period of 28 days, by my count). So there is not as much a discrepancy as denierbud tries to make believe between the described intensity of combat on 19 April 1943 and the casualties that were reported for that day.

Denierbud’s pointing out that no Germans killed by Jewish bombs or grenades are mentioned throughout the Stroop Report shows the bizarreness of denierbud’s reasoning rather than anything else. While it is true that neither the summary report nor the daily teletypes contain anything like “Unterscharführer So-and-so was killed by a hand grenade” or “Unterscharführer So-and-so was blown up by a mine” (though a wounding through hand grenades is mentioned on at least one occasion), does this imply that none of Stroop’s men is stated to have been killed by explosives? What are the fatalities mentioned in the casualty list supposed to have died from, if not either projectiles from fire-weapons or explosions of hand grenades or other explosive devices?

As to no booby-traps being mentioned by Stroop (though there is one mention of pressure mines laid by “bandits”), this need not mean that none were ever set up, although the Jewish fighters might have been reluctant to employ certain tactics out of concern about how the SS might react thereto against the unarmed civilians that made up the overwhelming majority of the ghetto’s population, or in the hope that, if not alerted and provoked by high casualties, the SS might eventually consider its task accomplished and call off the dreary search for Jews in bunkers and gutters before all ghetto inhabitants had been rooted out. An indication of such concerns or expectations, obviously based on vain hopes and wishful thinking, is provided by the Jews’ reluctance to kill Stroop himself despite having opportunities to do so, which Stroop refers to in the daily report of 14.05.1943:

Several bandits stated that they had long been in a position to kill off the leader of the action, the "General," as they call him, but that they would not do so, since they had orders to that effect to avoid the risk of a further intensification of the anti-Jewish measures.


Further factors to be considered in this context, besides the tactics employed by Stroop that will be addressed in the next section of this part, are the reduced number of Jewish fighters and the little armament they possessed, as opposed to the hardware of a well-equipped modern army. Just how many Jewish fighters were there in the ghetto, and what did they have to fight with?

According to this article, the strength of the Jewish forces before the uprising was the following:

The ZOB now had 22 fighting squads, of 15 fighters each, the Military Union had about half the number of fighters, but it operated in a similar manner.


22 fighting squads of 15 fighters each means a total of 330 fighters, half that many is 165, so the total Jewish fighting force amounted to 465 fighters.

According to the USHMM,

Seven hundred and fifty fighters fought the heavily armed and well-trained Germans.


Even by this higher count, the Jewish fighting force was numerically not very strong. And the nature and quantities of its armament further reduced its chances of putting up a successful resistance:

When, on January 18, the SS squads, composed largely of Balts and Ukrainians, attempted to sweep the ghetto, the inhabitants responded with sniper fire and hit-and-run tactics. Since the Jews had but some 140 small arms, most of them pistols and revolvers worthless except for close combat, the toll on the defenders was terrible – one thousand were killed and fifty-five hundred captured.
[…]
Some additional arms – a few hundred at the most – were obtained at exorbitant cost from the Poles. But the stock of ammunition did not exceed ten rounds per weapon, scarcely enough for a single action. It was Masada, 1943, but without a vestige of hope.

(Robert Conot, Justice at Nuremberg, page 269)

The same bleak picture of Jewish armament becomes apparent from Marek Edelman’s account of the Warsaw ghetto’s struggle. A glorifying account of that struggle by one of the leading figures of one of the Jewish fighting organizations, extolling the prowess of that organization in preparing and carrying out the fight, this is how it describes the hardware that the fighters of that organization had at their disposal (emphases are mine):

Michal Klepfisz in cooperation with the PS and WRN groups made the necessary arrangements for a large-scale purchase of explosives and incendiaries (e.g. 2,000 litres of gasoline) and later, after transporting the shipment to the ghetto, set up a factory for the production of Molotov cocktails and hand grenades. The production process was primitive and simple, but the large output of the shop greatly increased the firing-power of our detachments. By now every partisan was equipped, on the average, with one pistol (and 10-15 rounds for it), 4-5 hand grenades, 4-5 Molotov cocktails. 2-3 rifles were assigned to each "area". There was just one machine-gun in the entire ghetto


Just one machine-gun, few rifles, pistols, hand grenades and flame bottles the mainstay of the Jewish arsenal, and so little ammunition that every bullet had to be counted – the Jews didn’t stand a chance, and perhaps nothing is more illustrative of the desperateness of their situation than the following tactics Stroop refers to on several occasions in his report, for instance on page 8 of the summary account:

During this armed resistance the women belonging to the battle groups were equipped the same as the men; some were members of the Chaluzim movement. Not infrequently, these women fired pistols with both hands. It happened time and again that these women had pistols or hand grenades (Polish "pineapple" hand grenades) concealed in their bloomers up to the last moment to use against the men of the Waffen SS, Police, or Wehrmacht.


This and other references of Stroop’s to the Jews’ armament show just how miserable that armament was, notwithstanding Stroop’s understandable attempt to make the most of it in the eyes of his superiors. The Jews mostly fought with pistols or revolvers (worthless except for close combat, as Conot points out) and hand grenades or flame bottles (Molotov cocktails), which are the weapons most frequently mentioned by Stroop as having been employed by his opponents and captured by his own forces. Rifles are mentioned less frequently, and mentions of machine-gun fire are even rarer. Typical mentions of the Jews’ armament read like the following examples:


Daily Report of 25.04.1943, 1st page
:
Also today repeated armed resistance took place and in one bunker 3 pistols and explosive charges were captured.



Daily Report 05.05.1943, 1st page
:
Today, we again captured arms and ammunition, including one pistol.


Daily Report 06.05.1943, 1st page
In this skirmish the Jews fired from 08 pistols and other calibers and threw Polish "pineapple" hand grenades.


Daily Report 13.05.1943, 1st page:
During the securing of one bunker, a pitched fire fight took place during which the Jews not only shot with 08 pistols and Polish Vis-pistols, but also threw Polish hand grenades at the Waffen-SS men.


Less frequent are passages like this one from the daily report of 23.04.1943, in which Stroop expresses his astonishment at the fact that his opponents, go figure, even had some rifles:

The Jews and bandits held their fire up to the last moment and then concerted their fire against the units. They even used carbines.


Or like the following in the daily report of 14.05.1943:
The night patrols clashed with armed bandits several times. These bandits fired a machine gun and small arms.


So small was the booty of arms that Stroop was able to present at the end of the operation against the Warsaw Ghetto that he had to do some explaining to his superior, stating that a) seizure of weapons had been made difficult by a number of circumstances and b) explosives and flame bottles seized from the insurgents had immediately been used against them (as if the German and collaborator forces had not had sufficient weapons of their own). In the
explanatory report of 24.05.1943
, Stroop wrote the following (emphases are mine):

On figure 3 (bounty)[read: "booty" - RM]

7 Polish weapons, 1 USSR weapon, 1 German weapon, 59 pistols of different calibers, several hundred grenades, both Polish and self-made, a few hundred Molotov cocktails, self-made bombs, infernal machines with detonators.

Large amounts of dynamite, ammunition for weapons of all calibers, including ammunition for automatic weapons.

In respect of the seizure of weapons, t should be remembered that in most cases, the weapons could not be seized, because, before their capture, the bandits and Jews threw them into hiding places and holes that could not be determined or found. Seizure was also made impossible because of the smoke screens set in the bunkers by our men. Since the blowing up of the bunkers had to be undertaken immediately, there was no question of a subsequent capture.

The hand grenades, explosive ammunition and Molotov cocktails seized by us were immediately employed in fighting the bandits.


I leave it open whether Stroop’s main justification for his reduced weapons booty stands up to scrutiny, or whether he was just using a staple excuse invoked by counterinsurgency units when they have few captured weapons to show because most “partisans” or “bandits” they killed were actually unarmed noncombatants (see, for instance, the discussion of German anti-partisan fighting in Belorussia in Christian Gerlach’s book Kalkulierte Morde, especially the excerpt translated in my RODOH post # 3890). For the main reason why so little armament was captured, as shown by all three sources I have referred to, was that Stroop’s opponents didn’t have much armament to start with. The Jewish fighters of the Warsaw ghetto were not only few in number, but also very limited in what they had to inflict damage on their enemy with. The weapons they mainly used, pistols, hand grenades and Molotov cocktails, were close-combat weapons, meaning that the Jews had to get very close to their enemy in order to inflict casualties. This exposed them to high casualties at the hands of an opponent who could hit them with long-range weapons before they became dangerous to him, and was further made difficult by the tactics employed by Stroop’s forces, which will be discussed in the following section. Any fighting success under such circumstances called for extraordinarily reckless and able fighters, and unless the members of the Jewish fighting organizations had these qualities, the inefficiency of their struggle that denierbud rules out as impossible is not exactly implausible.

4. “Not enough Germans Killed” (item C of the section “A Fraudulent Commemoration Book”)

Denierbud tells his readers that there is an unbelievably wide disproportion between the number of Jews killed or captured that Stroop reported and the casualties of his own forces (16 killed, 85 wounded, by my count) that he stated in his report, and that this shows that the supposed female forger “wanted sympathy for the Jews, so she had Jews overwhelmingly killed in many awful ways, but she either forgot to have Germans killed, or omitted that since it didn't work with her Jewish sympathy goal”.

Before discussing whether denierbud’s conclusions make any sense, let’s have a look at the assumptions they are based on.

Denierbud points out the following ratios:

7000 divided by 16 equals 437. Which is 1 German killed for every 437 ghetto fighters. That's just not believable.

But another ratio is even harder to believe: could German forces walk into a mix of combatants and civilians, many armed in bunkers, who believed they were being deported to death camps, and lose 1 soldier for every 3504 people killed or captured?

56,065 divided by 16 equals 3504.


The first of these comparisons suffers from a mistake that I shall gently attribute to denierbud’s having failed to inform himself about how many combatants there actually were in the Warsaw ghetto and assumed that everyone the SS killed out of hand was a “fighter”. Actually, as we have seen in the previous section, the number of armed combatants in the Jewish fighting organizations was below 500 according to one source and 750 according to another. Assuming the higher figure, and that every last combatant was killed by Stroop’s forces (Marek Edelman obviously survived to tell the story, and Stroop himself mentions armed Jews and “bandits” who managed to make their way out of the ghetto), the ratio would be 47 Jewish fighters killed for every combat fatality on the German side (750 vs. 16) and about 7 Jewish fighters killed for every man in Stroop’s force that was either killed or wounded (750 vs. 101, by my count). Considering the wide gap in armament, namely that the Jews mostly fought with short-range weapons requiring them to get close to the enemy and thus expose themselves to high casualties from rifle and automatic weapons fire, and that the SS used artillery, armor, flamethrowers, demolition charges and smoke candles, are these ratios really as implausible as denierbud claims? Wide disproportions in casualties due to considerable differences in training, leadership, armament and tactics have been reported on other occasions, not only in operations by regular military forces against inferiorly trained and armed irregulars, but also in clashes with regular military forces on both sides. For example, at the 1939/40 battle of Suomussalmi, the Soviet forces are reported to have suffered 27,500 killed and missing, whereas the Finnish forces suffered only 350 killed, 600 wounded and 70 missing (ratio of Soviet vs. Finnish killed or missing: 65). When invading Yugoslavia in 1941, German forces killed thousands and captured several hundred thousand enemy troops while losing only 151 killed, 392 wounded and 15 missing. Between June and December 1941, according to Richard Overy (Russia’s War, page 164), German forces attacking the Soviet Union lost about 164,000 dead, against 2,663,000 killed and 3,350,000 taken prisoner on the Soviet side – a ratio of 16 Soviet soldiers killed for every German. In the battle of Kwajalein in January/February 1944, the invading US forces lost 372 killed and 1592 wounded, whereas of the Japanese defenders 7,870 were killed – a ratio of 21 Japanese fatalities for every American combat fatality. The list could be further expanded.

An important factor to be considered when comparing the reported casualties of Stroop’s forces with the number of Jews he claimed to have killed is that a considerable if not the greater part of the latter were not killed in the course of combat actions but executed thereafter. This is not merely an inference from the reduced number of combatants among the Jews that Stroop reported killed, but also becomes apparent from Stroop’s daily reports. While on some occasions it is claimed that the Jews were killed “in battle” or not specified how they were killed, on others it is clear that the Jews reported killed were shot after capture. Some examples of the latter will be quoted hereafter.

Daily Report 25.04.1943, 1st page:
Immediate liquidation was not carried out due to the onset of darkness. I will attempt to obtain a train for T II for tomorrow, otherwise the liquidations will be carried out tomorrow.


Daily Report 26.04.1943, 2nd page:
30 Jews displaced, 1,330 Jews pulled out of the bunkers and immediately destroyed, 362 Jews shot in battle.


Daily Report 27.04.1943, 1st page:
A total of 2,560 Jews were caught today within the former Ghetto, of whom 547 were shot.


Daily Report 02.05.1943, 1st page:
In these operations the raiding parties pulled out 944 Jews from dugouts; 235 more Jews were shot on this occasion.


Daily Report 04.05.1943, 1st page:
Today we caught a total of 2,283 Jews, of whom 204 were shot and innumerable Jews were destroyed in dug-outs and in the flames.


Daily Report 07.05.1943:
Altogether 1,019 Jews were caught alive today, 255 shot.


It stands to reason that the shooting of unarmed noncombatants is not a casualty-prone operation for the force carrying it out, even if denierbud seems to think otherwise.

But what about the Jews expressly reported as killed or shot “in battle”, as in the daily report 26.04.1943? Were they killed in firefights in which the troops opposing them were themselves at risk of being killed or wounded? In most cases this was probably not so, given the tactics employed by Stroop and described throughout his report. Contrary to what denierbud claims, the SS, police and Wehrmacht forces under Stroop’s command did not simply “walk into a mix of combatants and civilians”, thereby exposing themselves to being attacked and suffering casualties. They burned each block of the ghetto down before advancing into it, thereby causing a great many Jews to be burned alive, to be shot while trying to escape or to give themselves up, and they used explosives and smoke candles to destroy bunkers or make their inhabitants emerge from them. The following are some examples of how Stroop described his tactics:

Page 9 of the summary account:
On 23 April 1943 the Reichs Fuehrer SS issued through the higher SS and Police Fuehrer East at Cracow his order to complete the combing out of the Warsaw Ghetto with the greatest severity and relentless tenacity. I therefore decided to destroy the entire Jewish residential area by setting every block on fire, including the blocks of residential buildings near the armament works. One concern after the other was systematically evacuated and subsequently destroyed by fire. The Jews then emerged from their hiding places and dug-outs in almost every case.
[…]
It was always necessary to use smoke candles to drive out the Jews. Thus one day we opened 183 sewer entrance holes and at a fixed time lowered smoke candles into them, with the result that the bandits fled from what they believed to be gas to the center of the former Ghetto, where they could then be pulled out of the sewer holes there. A great number of Jews, who could not be counted, were exterminated by blowing up sewers and dug-outs.


Daily Report 21.04.1943, 1st page:
I resolved therefore to blow up these passages which we had discovered and subsequently to set the entire block on fire. Not until the building was well aflame did screaming Jews make their appearance, and they were evacuated at once. We had no losses in this operation. Precautionary measures were taken in order to ensure that the conflagration remained localized.



22.04.1943, supplement to par. 1 of message of 21 April 1943
:
Our setting the block on fire achieved the result in the course of the night that those Jews whom we had not been able to find despite all our search operations left their hideouts under the roofs, in the cellars, and elsewhere, and appeared at the outside of the buildings, trying to escape the flames. Masses of them - entire families - were already aflame and jumped from the windows or endeavored to let themselves down by means of sheets tied together or the like. Steps had been taken so that these Jews as well as the remaining ones were liquidated at once.



Daily Report 22.04.1943, up to 12:00 hours
:
One raiding party was dispatched to invade once more the block of buildings which for the greater part had burned out or was still aflame, in order to catch those Jews who were still inside. When shooting again started from one block against the men of the Waffen-SS, this block also was set on fire, with the result that a considerable number of bandits were scared from their hideouts and shot while trying to escape.


Daily Report 24.04.1943, 1st page:
Since some of these Jews resisted, I ordered the building to be set on fire. Not until all the buildings along the street and the back premises on either side were well aflame did the Jews, some of them on fire, emerge from these blocks, some of them endeavored to save their life by jumping into the street from windows and balconies, after having thrown down beds, blankets, and the like. Over and over again we observed that Jews and bandits, despite the danger of being burned alive, preferred to return into the flames rather than risk being caught by us.


Daily Report 25.04.1943, 1st page:
Mission: "Repeated thorough combing of all buildings, identification of bunkers and their blowing up, as well as capture of Jews. Where they meet any resistance or bunkers cannot be reached, the buildings are to be burnt to the ground."
[…]
Today's mission ended for almost all of the shock troops with the breaking out of giant fires which caused the Jews to leave their hiding places and refuges.
[…]
If last night the former ghetto was covered with the glare of fire, then today a giant sea of fire can be seen.


Daily Report 29.04.1943, 1st page:
A larger raiding party was detailed to clean a certain block of buildings (formerly the Hallmann concern) and to burn this block down. 36 more dug-outs used for habitation were discovered altogether, and from them and other hideouts and from the burning buildings, 2,359 Jews were caught, of whom 106 were killed in battle.


Daily Report 07.05.1943
Today we blew up a concrete building which we had not been able to destroy by fire. In this operation we learned that the blowing up of a building is a very lengthy process and takes an enormous amount of explosives. The best and only method for destroying the Jews therefore still remains the setting of fires.


Daily Report 08.05.1943, 1st page
There were about 200 Jews in this dug-out, of whom 60 were caught and 140 were destroyed, partly owing to the strong effect of smoke-candles, and partly owing to heavy explosive charges which were laid in several places. The Jews whom we caught had already reported that innumerable Jews had been killed by the effect of the smoke-candles.



Daily Report 14.05.1943, 2nd page

In order to force the bandits in the sewers to come to the surface, 183 sewer entrances were opened at 1500 hours, and smokecandles were lowered into them at an ordered x-time, thereupon the bandits, seeking escape from what they supposed to be poison gas, crowded together in the center of the former Ghetto, and we were able to pull them out of the sewer entrances there.


And so on. As we can see, Stroop employed tactics that, while time-consuming and reckless, allowed his forces to kill a great number of Jews while mostly remaining out of their opponents’ reach. The devastating effect of these tactics from the Jewish point of view is described by Marek Edelman, as follows:

The partisans' stand was so determined that the Germans were finally forced to abandon all ordinary fighting methods and to try new, apparently infallible tactics. Their new idea was to set fire to the entire brush-makers' block from the outside, on all sides simultaneously. In an instant fires were raging over the entire block, black smoke choked one's throat, burned one's eyes. The partisans, naturally, did not intend to be burnt alive in the flames. We decided to gamble for our lives and to attempt to reach the central ghetto area regardless of consequences.

The flames cling to our clothes which now start smouldering. The pavement melts under our feet into a black, gooey substance. Broken glass, littering every inch of the streets, is transformed into a sticky liquid in which our feet are caught. Our soles begin to burn from the heat of the stone pavement. One after another we stagger through the conflagration. From house to house, from courtyard to courtyard, with no air to breathe, with a hundred hammers clanging in our heads, with burning rafters continuously falling over us, we finally reach the end of the area on fire. We feel lucky just to stand here, to be out of the inferno.[…]
The omnipotent flames were now able to accomplish what the Germans could not do. Thousands of people perished in the conflagration. The stench of burning bodies was everywhere. Charred corpses lay around on balconies, in window recesses, on unburned steps. The flames chased the people out from their shelters, made them leave the previously prepared safe hide-outs in attics and cellars. Thousands staggered about in the courtyards where they were easy prey for the Germans who imprisoned them or killed them outright. Tired beyond all endurance, they would fall asleep in driveways, entrances, standing, sitting, lying and were caught asleep by a passing German's bullet. Nobody would even notice that an old man sleeping in a corner would never again wake up, that a mother feeding her baby had been cold and dead for three days, that a baby's crying and sucking was futile since its mothers arms were cold and her breast dead. Hundreds committed suicide jumping from the fourth or fifth storeys of apartment houses. Mothers would thus save their children from terrible death in flames.


If denierbud speaks of Stroop’s forces having done “things” that made them “very vulnerable to attack”, like discovering and opening dugouts, he forgets to tell his readers that, before doing such “things”, fire had either killed the inhabitants of such dugouts, or caused them to flee the same, or made them into half-crazed, half-suffocated beings more likely than not to give themselves up if only to breathe some fresh air. Stroop was well aware of these people’s situation through interrogations of prisoners, as he mentioned in the daily report of 26.04.1943:

According to statements of the captured Jews, a large number of inhabitants in the bunkers have become insane due to the heat, the thick smoke and the successful explosions.


I don’t think many people are likely to keep in hiding under such circumstances, with horrible death inside their dugout the expected outcome, even if they expect to be killed by their captors.

This leads us to an issue addressed by denierbud when he claims that the Jews “supposedly” knew they were earmarked for annihilation and would thus “resist being taken alive”. Unfortunately such expectation is incompatible with the tendency of many human beings to refuse accepting facts that are too horrible to be contemplated. Marek Edelman describes how most Warsaw ghetto Jews, even in the face of unmistakable indications that the Germans intended to wipe them out, “simply closed their eyes to the unpleasant facts and fought against them with all the means at their disposal”. Even a “detailed description of Treblinka” did not put an end to the ostrich-like attitude of people irrationally hoping that they would be spared. So it is not surprising that this attitude should still have been present among many of the ghetto’s remaining inhabitants even during the uprising. And for people looking forward to dying from heat or suffocation inside their bunkers, the choice was just between one form of death and another anyway.

Having thus shown that Stroop’s list of casualties suffered by his forces need not be as unrealistic as denierbud claims it to be, I shall now turn to the question why on earth the forger of denierbud’s fantasies would have played down the losses that the Jewish ghetto fighters managed to inflict on the SS, rather than doing the exact opposite. Had denierbud done a little research on what significance is attributed to the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in historiography and in Jewish tradition, he might have realized that it is widely seen as an outstanding and heartening example of courageous resistance against a murderous oppressor, as opposed to the passivity and resignation that mostly characterized Jewish reactions to the Nazi extermination program. On this site, for instance, the uprising is extolled as follows:

The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising became one of the most celebrated events of the Holocaust. It gave encouragement to Jews elsewhere as news of the brave stand taken by the Warsaw fighters spread. In Vilna Hirsh Glick wrote the song, Zog nit keyn mol, which became the partisan fighters anthem. The worldwide day of remembrance of the Holocaust, Yom Hashoah, was chosen to be as close as religious custom allowed to actual date of the beginning of the uprising. The uprising took place on April 19, 1943 which corresponds to the 15 th day of the month Nissan in the Hebrew calendar, which is the first day of Passover; Yom Hashoah occurs every year on the 27 th day of Nissan.


The Anti-Defamation League sees the uprising in a similarly glorious light:

The Warsaw ghetto uprising was nothing less than a revolution in Jewish history. Jews had resisted the Nazis with armed force. The significance and symbolic resonance of the uprising went far beyond the numbers of those who fought and died. Mordecai Anielwicz wrote to his colleague Itzhak Zuckerman:"…what really matters is that the dream of my life has become true. Jewish self defense in the Warsaw ghetto has become a fact. Jewish armed resistance and retaliation have become a reality. I have been witness to the magnificent heroic struggle of the Jewish fighters."


So do even more sober and objective sources, such as Gerald Reitlinger, who on page 293 of the 1961 2nd edition of The Final Solution wrote the following:

The events of the next five weeks may be seen from three totally different angles. The first, which is the symbolic angle, must determine the verdict of history. From this angle, the ghetto rebellion was the first national military struggle of the Jews since the rebellion of Bar Kochba in the reign of Hadrian. It was the precursor of the defence of Jerusalem’s ‘Old City’ and the three invasions of Sinai. Goebbels himself took notice of the bulletins of the ‘Jewish High Command.’ Accordingly, the ghetto rebellion has become a Jewish epic in its own right, and it must forever remain so.


On pages 974 and following of William Shirer’s The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (Simon & Schuster, New York, 1960), the following is stated:

More than one eyewitness has commented on the spirit of resignation with which so many Jews met their deaths in the Nazi gas chambers or in the great execution pits of the Einsatz squads. Not all Jews submitted to extermination so gently. In the spring days of 1943 some 60,000 Jews walled up in the Warsaw ghetto – all that remained of 400,000 who had been herded into this place like cattle in 1940 – turned on their Nazi tormentors and fought.


Less glamorous is the assessment of Raul Hilberg, who saw the uprising, like other acts of resistance, as but another manifestation of the Jews’ failure to stand up to the Nazi onslaught, and who based this harsh criticism on how little damage the Jews were able to inflict on their enemies. On pages 293/294 of the 1985 student edition of The Destruction of the European Jews (Holmes & Meier, New York and London), which starts with the sentence:

The German destruction of the European Jews was a tour de force; the Jewish collapse under the German assault was a manifestation of failure.


Hilberg wrote the following:

The Jews were not oriented toward resistance. Even those who contemplated a resort to arms were given pause by the thought that for a limited success of a handful, the multitude would suffer the consequences. Outbreaks of resistance were consequently infrequent, and almost always they were local occurrences that transpired at the last moment. Measured in German casualties, Jewish armed opposition shrinks into insignificance. The most important engagement was fought in the Warsaw ghetto (sixteen dead and eighty-five wounded on the German side, including collaborators). Following the breakout from the Sobibór camp, there was a count of nine SS men killed, one missing, one wounded, and two collaborators killed. In Galicia sporadic resistance resulted in losses also to SS and Police Leader Katzmann (eight dead, twelve wounded). In addition there were clashes between Jewish partisans and German forces in other parts of the east, and occasional acts of resistance by small groups and individuals in the ghettos and killing centers. It is doubtful that the Germans and their collaborators lost more than a few hundred men, dead and wounded, in the course of the destruction process. The number of men who dropped out because of disease, nervous breakdowns, or other court martial proceedings was probably greater. The Jewish resistance effort could not seriously impede or retard the progress of destructive operations. The Germans brushed that resistance aside as a minor obstacle, and in the totality of the destruction process it was of no consequence.


Would denierbud’s fantastic female forger, intent on garnering sympathy for the Jews, play down the efficiency of Jewish resistance to the Nazi killers and the casualties it inflicted on them, and thus make that great Jewish epic (Reitlinger), that “magnificent heroic struggle of the Jewish fighters” (Mordecai Anielwicz, as quoted by the Anti-Defamation League) referred to in the bulletins of ‘Jewish High Command’ that Goebbels himself took notice of (Reitlinger), look like what Hilberg considered a manifestation of Jewish failure? Or would “she” do her best to point out that the heroic Jewish fighters not only stood up against their tormentors, but also gave them hell?

The latter is by far the more realistic scenario, assuming that forgery is a realistic possibility at all. Considering the attitudes towards the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising that have been mentioned above, claiming that low German casualties are an indication against the Stroop Report’s authenticity makes less sense than claiming that someone fabricated Marek Edelman’s account. For that account not only points to the number of Germans killed by Jewish fighters having been much higher than is stated in the Stroop Report, but also refers to Jewish heroics and tactics of the kind that, according to denierbud, should have been mentioned by Stroop:

The Germans attempted a retreat, but their path was cut. German dead soon littered the street. The remainder tried to find cover in the neighbouring stores and house entrances, but this shelter proved insufficient. The "glorious" SS, therefore, called tanks into action under the cover of which the remaining men of two companies were to commence a "victorious" retreat. But even the tanks seemed to be affected by the Germans' bad luck. The first was burned out by one of our incendiary bottles, the rest did not approach our positions. The fate of the Germans caught in the Mita Street-Zamenhofa Street trap was settled. Not a single German left this area alive.[…]
The Germans found some mattresses and used them as cover, but the partisans' well-aimed fire forced them to several successive withdrawals. German blood flooded the street. German ambulances continuously transported their wounded to the small square near the Community buildings. Here the wounded lay in rows on the sidewalk awaiting their turn to be admitted to the hospital. At the corner of Gesia Street a German air liaison observation post signalled the partisans' positions and the required bombing targets to the planes. But from the air as well as on the ground the partisans appeared to be invincible. The Gesia Street-Nalewki Street battle ended in the complete withdrawal of the Germans.[…]
At precisely the same moment the plug was placed in the socket and a mine, waiting for the Germans for a long time, exploded under the SS-men's feet. Over one hundred SS-men were killed in the explosion.[…]
Of the thirty Germans who succeeded in entering the area, only a few were able to leave it. Once again the Germans withdrew from the ghetto. Once again the partisans' victory was complete. It was their second victory.[…]
Szlamek reaches for an incendiary bottle and throws it at the German so accurately that the latter, hit squarely over his helmet, instantly catches fire and is burned to death.[…]
On one occasion Rozowski and Sziomo, during the course of an area inspection, noticed an approaching German truck. They thought for an instant and then swiftly climbed to a balcony. From here they threw a four-pound powder charge straight down into the truck killing all but five of the sixty SS-men in it.[…]
At 56 Leszno Street Jurek is cornered at an outpost. A group of SS-men surrounds him and one throws a grenade. Jurek adroitly catches the grenade in mid-air and tosses it back at the SS-men before it has time to explode. Four of them are killed on the spot.[…]


Are the above passages of Edelman’s account just the bragging of someone trying to glorify himself and his comrades-in-arms? Or was the Jewish resistance in the Warsaw Ghetto far more successful and damaging than Stroop was prepared to admit in either his daily report or his summary account? The latter has been assumed by several sources. On page 978 of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Shirer wrote the following:

German losses, according to Stroop, were sixteen killed and ninety wounded. Probably the true figures were much higher, given the nature of the savage house-to-house fighting which the general himself described in such lurid detail.


Reitlinger (as above, page 296) also entertained the possibility that Stoop’s casualties “may have been understated to please Himmler”.

And on this site, casualties on both sides are given as follows:

Approximately 300 Germans and 7,000 Jews were killed in the uprising, and another 7,000 Jews were deported to Treblinka.


If Stroop actually reported casualties much lower than his forces actually suffered, he did nothing that has not been done throughout history by military commanders (though Colonel-General Alfred Jodl, who contemptuously referred to the amount of paper Stroop had dedicated to his “little murder expedition”, might have resented calling Stroop a military commander, Stroop himself apparently saw himself as one) trying to present themselves to their superiors as more successful than they had actually been. In the case of Stroop, it might have been especially embarrassing if, on top of having taken much longer to clear out the ghetto than had been planned (according to Shirer, as above page 975, the operation was originally meant to last three days), his troops suffered high casualties at the hands of a motley force of badly armed insurgents belonging to what was seen as an inferior and despicable people.

So, whatever the actual casualties of Stroop’s forces in putting down the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising were, one thing is sure: if someone had a reason to play down these casualties, it was certainly not the female Jewish forger of denierbud’s fantasies. It was only Stroop himself.

Two more of denierbud’s arguments against the authenticity of the Stroop Report having thus been dealt with, I move on to his “Ten Other Points to Consider”, insofar as not already dealt with in Part 1 of this article.

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Continuation:

“The Stroop Report is a Forgery” (Part 3)

Sticky: Chicken Challenge

Updated on 18.09.2007:

It took
162 days

for One Third of the Holocaust author to link to us on 28.02.2007!
But on 08.03.2007 the link has been removed. So we're starting this anew: it's been

194 days

and there's still no link to us on UVP's site! (And he has a cheek to complain about his ad being thrown out!)

To the author of the One Third of the Holocaust video:

It's been several months since we have started posting our rebuttals to your videoclips. But there hasn't been any meaningful response from you. You have even deleted the links which one of us placed at YouTube. To us that signifies that you know that you have produced trash and that you simply can't defend your deception-packed video.

You can prove us wrong by placing the links to our rebuttal both at your YouTube page and your sites.

After all, if you think that we haven't rebutted anything, what can you be afraid of? Here's a link you can place at your pages if you have any intellectual honesty:

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/04/quick-links.html#debuv

Today is September 18, 2006. This posting will be a sticky for a while, so
that everybody can see how many days you will play dumb and not post the
links.


Show us you're not a chicken!

~ HC team

PS: and yes, we don't give a damn about your so-called "guidelines". If you can't even deal with what amateurs have to offer, you're done.


A note to our readers: please, go to the Ugly Voice's YouTube page and urge him to link to our rebuttals.

Check out these other postings about:

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Monday, September 17, 2007

Plaut at It Again

As mentioned at this blog some months ago, Haifa University professor Steven Plaut lost a libel suit to fellow Israeli academic Neve Gordon (Ben-Gurion University) for having called Gordon a "Holocaust denier," which Gordon is most decidedly not.

Having lost that case, Plaut, spewing for his rot in the pages of David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com, argues a "revisionist 'narrative' of the affair was being churned out by the Far Left." His targets now are Norman Finkelstein and the late Raul Hilberg. As the former is a public figure and the latter dead, U.S. libel law makes it far more difficult for legal action to be taken against Plaut.

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I happen to have serious issues with Finkelstein's work. Nevertheless, I have more serious issues with what appears to be an attack on Finkelstein's academic freedom -- a freedom Plaut would very much like to see denied to anti-Zionists. I also have a serious problem with Plaut -- once again -- making a host of unsourced assertions about his perceived enemies.

But let's delve into Plaut's rant. Here are some of the gems:
  • First of all, I love how any person who disagrees with someone like Plaut is automatically a member of the ill-defined "Far Left" that Plaut and others like him frequently attack. (It's a stock-in-trade insult of Bill O'Reilly of Fox News -- he of "the Americans committed Malmedy" gaffe.)

  • Plaut writes, "Neo-Nazi web sites hailed him as the 'Jew who proved that the Holocaust was a hoax.' Finkelstein had repeatedly proclaimed Holocaust Denier and pseudo-historian David Irving as his role model and hero, even when Irving was sitting in a Vienna prison for Neo-Nazi propagandizing. Finkelstein baselessly smeared just about everyone, from Holocaust writer Elie Wiesel to Alan Dershowitz, the latter whom Finkelstein falsely accused of plagiarism. Finkelstein physically threatened his own Dean."

    First of all, any neo-Nazi or other Jew-hating malcontent that would argue that Finkelstein "proved the Holocaust was a hoax" clearly has never read his work. That a host of idiots of decided to put Finkelstein's work into that category does not in any way impeach Finkelstein's research -- it impeaches only (a) themselves and (b) those people who, like Plaut, would seek to besmirch reputations through guilt by association -- associations that, here, don't even exist.

    Second, I would defy Plaut to produce any evidence whatsoever that Irving is his "role model and hero." I do recall Finkelstein arguing that Irving had a right to be an idiot. I also recall my colleague Deborah Lipstadt saying the same. Finkelstein, however, said it in a forum where he also attacked "Lady" Michele Renouf, a British neo-fascist supporter of Irving's, for denying the Holocaust. Finkelstein asked Renouf where his aunts and uncles who were killed by the Nazis were today, and the best she was able to muster was that they had gone to Palestine. This she alleged without evidence -- much the same way that Plaut has done with Finkelstein. (I would urge readers to view the debate between Finkelstein and Renouf here.)

    Third, I would also like to see any evidence that Finkelstein threatened his own dean. If this is true, then why didn't the dean at DePaul take legal action against Finkelstein? A physical threat is a criminal act, after all.

  • Plaut writes further, "It seeks to attribute Finkelstein's career failure to the all-but-nonexistent 'Israel Lobby,' while overlooking the bizarre alliance of hatred and bigotry comprising the Finkelstein Lobby. Finkelstein's apologists are leaders in the pro-terror Arab Lobby, the sorts of people who readily believe everything about the Middle East except the facts. They include everyone from the 'Revolutionary Communists,' to the 'anarchists,' to the Islamists, to David Duke and the Neo-Nazi fruit loops, to a handful of Jewish leftwing loonies."

    First, without getting into an argument over Walt and Mearsheimer, I would have to wonder how Israel receives in excess of $4 billion per year without it having a strong lobby.

    Second, that a host of lunatics correctly identified by Plaut support Finkelstein is not a recent to refuse supporting him. Using Plaut's logic, if a neo-Nazi voted for Ronald Reagan in the 1980 Presidential election, then one ought not vote for Reagan at all -- a position I sincerely doubt Plaut takes.

  • Plaut attacks DePaul University itself for having hosted a performance of The Vagina Monologues and having invited award-winning British author Tariq Ali to lecture there (baselessly called pro-terrorist by Plaut). That the university offers a class in music journalism taught by a woman who has written on the heavy metal genre is apparently another symptom of DePaul's moral turpitude. (Never mind that our own Nick Terry used to write on heavy metal for Britain's music industry, as did I for ClearChannel in the U.S.)

  • Plaut claims that Finkelstein was denied tenure because of his lack of scholarship. During his time at DePaul, Finkelstein published a book with the University of California Press. Has Plaut published a book-length work in his field (economics) since 1985's Joy of Capitalism? It seems this is an area where Plaut would be better off keeping his mouth shut, as he appears to be academic dead wood.

  • Plaut, apparently not wanting to get his pants sued off again, now quotes Alan Dershowitz about Neve Gordon: "Neve Gordon has gotten into bed with neo-Nazis, Holocaust justice deniers, and anti-Semites. He is a despicable example of a self-hating Jew and a self-hating Israeli." Really? Would Dersh like to show us all the wounds he sustained defending the State of Israel? What's that? He doesn't have any? Neither does Plaut? That's funny: "Self-hating Israeli" Neve Gordon is a disabled IDF veteran.

  • Plaut's next target is University of Pennsylvania professor Ian Lustick, author of several seminal texts of Israeli far-right terrorism, including Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel, an excellent work. Plaut writes about Lustick, "[He] deconstructs terrorism thus" and then he quotes (without attribution) a review of one of Lustick's books by Dr. Joshua Sinai. He doesn't bother to quote Lustick himsef, and one must wonder why.

  • In attacking Noam Chomsky's support of Finkelstein, Plaut writes, "Noam Chomsky was no doubt the most outspoken and shrill outside lobbyist, in spite of the fact that Chomsky is but a linguist (and a discredited one at that), not a political scientist." Actually Chomsky is still considered a major authority in the field of linguistics. Plaut ought to keep his trashing to fields with which he is familiar.

  • Turning to defaming the dead, Plaut writes, "But Hilberg praised Finkelstein as an act of petty solidarity simply because Finkelstein had earlier smeared Hilberg's own arch-nemesis, the historian Daniel Jonah Goldhagen. It was an example of Middle East style vendetta, where 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend.' Exiled to rural Vermont, Hilberg was bitter and hostile towards a 'Jewish establishment' that he felt granted him insufficient recognition, and was willing to praise a vicious anti-Semite in order to poke his finger in their eye."

    Actually, there are extremely few people in the Holocaust historiography community who take Finkelstein's work seriously, while Hilberg remains the benchmark by whom other Holocaust historians' work is measured. Hilberg was not "exiled" in Vermont; he had a tenure-track position at the University of Vermont in Montpelier. The characterization of Hilberg here is nothing but sheer lies.
But the thing that really gets me about Plaut's piece is the constant waving of the bloody shirt of the Holocaust to hammer home his point.

Finkelstein isn't Hitler, Dr. Plaut. In fact, Dr. Finkelstein, by virtue of the experience of his parents' experience during the war, is a victim of Hitler. Perhaps you can try to bear that in mind when writing your next hit piece on a public figure or dead person. Or both.

Sunday, September 16, 2007

"The Stroop Report is a Forgery" (Part 1)

The Stroop Report is a forgery.

At least that’s the claim of our steady customer denierbud, the author of the One Third of the Holocaust video trash that we have almost completely debunked, without denierbud having responded to our challenge to publish our commentaries on his website.

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In his online article Stroop on Treblinka, Jamie McCarthy wrote that

The so-called "Stroop Report" has never had its authenticity challenged, even (to our knowledge) by Holocaust-deniers who reject incriminating documents almost as a matter of course.


It McCarthy is right, this means that denierbud is a pioneer of sorts in matters of inanity. For in his latest production we are asked to believe that some obscure female forger – denierbud suspects that it was Rachel Auerbach, a member of a Polish state investigation committee who visited the site of the Treblinka extermination camp in November 1945 and wrote about that camp, and who denierbud refers to as “a feminist and a zionist” connected to “a propaganda group headed by Adolf Berman and Emmanuel Ringelblum” – produced a detailed 75-page document in German, consisting mostly of daily teletype reports with file numbers and other formal features and precise information such as data about the units and forces involved, and including a casualty list with about 100 names and unit designations, added over 50 manipulated photographs (denierbud somehow counted “around 65 photos”), gave the whole thing the look of ornate German craftsmanship, leather bound, profusely illustrated, typed on heavy bond paper, and then somehow planted it in Nazi archives, where it was discovered by US military intelligence and passed on to the US prosecution team to be presented as Document 1061-PS by US chief prosecutor Jackson on the second day of the Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal.

The claim also implies that someone induced former SS commander Jürgen Stroop into never challenging the authenticity of the document. As we shall see below, Stroop provided information to interrogators about the history of the report, the number of specimens issued and the purpose and features of each specimen.

Denierbud seems to be quite obsessed with the issue, for he has been continuously adding material to his feature since I first looked at it. At that time, it consisted of just the “no deadly explosions” and “not enough Germans killed” arguments, five “other points to consider” and his musings about the forger being Rachel Auerbach. Now he has added another to the two he apparently considers his main arguments, his “other points to consider” have increased to ten, and his speculations about the forger’s identity have been expanded. Fanatical true believer that he is, denierbud will probably keep on adding to his crusade against the Stroop Report, but I don’t feel like waiting until he’s got all his BS together. The following commentary is based on denierbud’s feature as it stood on 16.09.2007 at 21:04 hours GMT, according to a screenshot I have taken. What changes denierbud may introduce to his “essay” in the future will be commented as they come along.

So, what is denierbud’s bold forgery claim based on? What indications against the authenticity of a document that even fellow “Revisionist” truth-seekers found no basis to challenge does he think to have found?

Any demonstrable incompatibilities with the historical context that becomes apparent from other evidence? No, denierbud has none of that to offer.

Any physical indications of manipulation?

Well, he thinks he found two related to Stroop’s artillery, which I shall look at first of all. Though belonging to different sections of denierbud’s “essay”, these claims will be discussed together due to the similarity of their subject.

1. “The Forger Got The Gun Wrong” (item A of the section “A Fraudulent Commemoration Book”)

Denierbud starts out claiming that the “forger” of his fantasies “got the gun wrong” when mentioning a 10 cm howitzer in the “short list of weapons”, because this is not the kind of gun that, according to some anonymous Australian artillery buff who obviously shares denierbud’s convictions, is shown on photographs included in the Stroop Report, especially this one that denierbud calls the “Stroop report gun photo”. The gun on this photo, according to denierbud, is shown especially by the characteristics of the gun shield as being a “75mm wz. 02-26 Polish divisional field gun”. Stroop, so denierbud tells us, would certainly have “reviewed ammunition orders for the weapon”, and he also was a World War I veteran who would therefore have “25 years of experience with howitzers”, so he couldn’t have possibly got the gun wrong. Denierbud also claims that a howitzer is “not the best choice for a weapon for inner-city fighting” – something his “forger” of course would not know.

One problem with denierbud’s “wrong gun” claim is that, as will be shown hereafter, his “Stroop report gun photo” was certainly not part of any specimen of the Stroop Report, even though its inclusion in a “Stroop Report Image Gallery 2” by a certain dubious“Holocaust Education & Archive Research Team” might suggest otherwise.

The following excerpt from page 26 of Richard Raskin’s book A Child at Gunpoint (Aarhus : Aarhus University Press, 2004) brings us a description of the Stroop Report by the man whose name it bears:

Captured by U.S. forces in May 1945 and extradited to Poland in 1948 to stand trial for the crimes he had committed in Warsaw, Stroop gave testimony during pre-trial hearings on the full range of his activities as leader of the Großaktion, including the making of what would come to be known as the Stroop Report:

Since Himmler and Krüger were very interested in the progress of the operation, I had to send daily reports to Krüger, who forwarded them to Himmler. At the conclusion of the operation, in compliance with Krüger’s wish, three bound books were made of these reports, one of which was for him, the second was to be sent on to Himmler via Krüger, and the third was for me. As far as I remember, an unbound file copy of the report (das Konzept) remained in the headquarters of the SS and Police Leader in Warsaw, in the care of Chief of Staff Jesuiter.


Only two of the four specimens mentioned by Stroop were discovered (denierbud claims that “Only three copies exist”). Raskin, as above, pages 28 ff.:

Two specimens of the Stroop Report were exhibited at the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg in November 1945, sharing the document number 1061-PS, and when subsequently entered as evidence in December 1945, they shared the title “US Exhibit 275”. According to the “Staff Evidence Analysis” prepared by the Office of the U.S. Chief of Counsel (OCC), the sources of these originals were listed as the Seventh Army Intelligence Center (SAIC) for the one, and the Military Intelligence Research Section (MIRS) in London for the other. (See Appendix II, pp. 61-62 below.)
One of these specimens, the one supplied by SAIC, was a leather-bound original. Having served its purpose in Nuremberg, it was sent to Warsaw by the OCC in 1948 on the request of the Polish authorities preparing their case against Stroop. It is still there today, in the care of the Institute of National Remembrance, and is the only leather-bound original whose whereabouts are now known[my emphasis – RM].
The MIRS specimen is unbound, and is presumably the file copy which – according to Stroop – was kept at SS headquarters in Warsaw, though how it found its way to MIRS in London (if in fact it did) is a mystery. In any event, the MIRS copy is now at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) in Washington, D.C. That it is the file copy rather than one of the bound originals, is suggested not only by the absence of a leather binding, but also by the fact that Stroop’s signature is missing from the final page of the introduction and that none of the 32 dispatches is signed by Stroop nor counter-signed by his chief of staff, Jesuiter. (All of these signatures are found in the leather-bound Warsaw specimen.)
Widely circulated claims that all three leather-bound originals were recovered after the war and are currently located at the NARA in Washington, the Bundesarchiv in Koblenz and the Chief War Crimes Commission in Warsaw, are simply incorrect. The Bundesarchiv possesses no specimen of the document, and the NARA copy – as already mentioned – is unbound and devoid of the signatures that were undoubtedly present in all three of the leather-bound specimens of the report.
It is therefore clear that two of the three leather-bound originals are now missing[my emphasis – RM].


On pages 40 to 49 of his book, Raskin provides copies of all 53 photographs (not 65, as denierbud claims) that are included in the specimen kept by the Polish Institute of National Remembrance in Warsaw, the only leather-bound original of the Stroop Report known to have been found:

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Denierbud’s “Stroop report gun photo” is not among these photographs. It is therefore irrelevant to discussing the authenticity of said leather-bound original.

What about the file copy kept at the NARA?

Indeed there are certain differences between the Warsaw original and the NARA copy, as pointed out by Raskin on page 49:

37 of the 53 photos in the Warsaw document are also in the NARA copy, though not necessarily in the same order nor of the same size. And in the case of three other photos, the 7th, 15th and 41st in the Warsaw document, there is a NARA variant, taken of the same scene but a moment earlier or later and from another angle.


What Raskin refers to as the 7th, 15th and 41st photos in the Warsaw document are the following photos included in the THHP feature of the Stroop Report:

“Forcibly pulled out of dug-outs”

NARA Variant (from the site of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum): "To the Umschlagplatz"

“These bandits defended themselves by force of arms”

NARA Variant: "These bandits offered armed resistance"

“The radio car of the command post”

NARA Variant: "In the radio car of the command post"

Regarding the 16 photos in which the Warsaw original and the NARA copy completely differ from each other, Raskin (as above, page 50) writes the following:

Of the 16 photos in the Warsaw document that are not represented in the NARA specimen, the one that is most striking is the picture of the captured HeChalutz women (the 26th in the series, shown on p. 44 above). And of the 16 photos in the NARA document not found in the Warsaw specimen, none stands out as particularly memorable.


A query for photographs from the Stroop Report on the site of the USHMM turns up 59 photographs, two of which (this one and this one) show the report’s cover page. Out of the other 57, 15 (nos. 5, 7, 8, 13, 14, 16, 22, 25, 28, 33, 34, 36, 37, 41 and 56) are identified as being from the Stroop Report but have no equal or variant in the photos included in Raskin’s book. The 16th of the photos “in the NARA document not found in the Warsaw specimen”, mentioned by Raskin, is missing and may thus theoretically be denierbud's “Stroop report gun photo”. However, it does not show either in this query nor among the 55 photographs listed under the subject classification “GHETTOS (MAJOR) -- WARSAW (Poland) -- Uprising/Suppression -- Stroop Report”. It is only turned up as # 66 out of 151 photos by a query under “Warsaw Ghetto Uprising” on the USHMM site. As we can see there, it is not identified as part of the Stroop Report. The subject classification is a “GHETTOS (MAJOR) -- WARSAW (Poland) -- Uprising/Suppression – General” .

So unless the USHMM wrongly allocated this photo, we can conclude that it is not part of either of the available specimens of the Stroop Report, and therefore without relevance to discussing the authenticity of either specimen.

There are, to be sure, photographs in the Stroop Report that show a gun firing at buildings. These are photos numbers 28 and 37 turned up by the USHMM’s “Stroop Report” query and numbers 36 (the lower of the two pictures shown on this page) and 37 (the upper of the pictures shown on this page) of the Warsaw original’s photos shown by Raskin.

The former two are not very helpful as they show little more of the gun besides its wheels. The latter two are more interesting, as they show the silhouette of the gun shield, which is obviously a straight rectangular shield, without a bulge such as that of the German 10,5-cm leichte Feldhaubitze 18.

Does this mean it is the 7.5-cm gun that denierbud claims it to be, rather than a howitzer matching Stroop’s description?

Not necessarily, as there are a number of howitzers of the calibers 10 or 10.5 centimeters, in use by German forces during World War II, that seem to match what can be seen of the gun and especially the profile of its shield. For instance:

• The 10,5-cm leichte Feldhaubitze 16. Although a World War I gun, it also saw service in World War II, according to the Lexikon der Wehrmacht.

• The 105mm M14 lFH Skoda, of which updated versions served well into the Second World War, again with the German army after it had occupied Czechoslovakia. Apparently this gun was also referred to as 10cm Feld-Haubitze M.14. According to the Lexikon der Wehrmacht, 127 Czech 10-cm howitzers 10-cm le. FH. 30(t) were taken over by the SS, and the Wehrmacht took over 382 Skoda-built Czech army howitzers under the designation 10-cm le.FH 14/19(t), as well as 676 Polish army howitzers under the designation 10-cm le.FH. 14/19(p), which had also been built by Skoda. This site shows some pictures of a Polish 100 mm howitzer of Skoda manufacture (Haubica 100 mm wz. 1914/1919 Skoda), apparently used in the 1939 campaign. This article also features one photograph of what I presume is the same type of gun. An article about this howitzer can be found here.

• The Italian Obice da 100/17, which saw service in the German armed forces as the 10 cm FH 315(i) (also mentioned in the Lexikon der Wehrmacht).

On the other hand, the 10 cm howitzer, the use of which is specifically mentioned only in the supplementary report of 20 April 1943, need not have been the only field artillery employed by Stroop’s forces. There are mentions of the use of artillery in other daily reports, at least one of which suggests an artillery piece other than the 10-cm howitzer.

In the report of 21 April 1943, the use of unspecified “schwere Waffen”, i.e. heavy weapons (incorrectly translated as “heavy artillery”) is mentioned:

Inasmuch as the special operation concerning the block of buildings occupied by the Army Accommodation Office had to be interrupted yesterday because of darkness, one battle group reinforced by Engineers and heavy artillery was again sent into the block of buildings, which was found to contain an enormous quantity of dug-outs and subterranean passages firing from time to time.


And in the report of 30 April 1943, it is stated that

In attacking one of the blocks we had to use a gun today.


The type of gun is not specified. This action is likelier to be the one shown in the above-mentioned four photographs from the Stroop Report than the one on 20 April 1943, for on these photos the gun seems to be firing at buildings already burned out, and the report of 30 April 1943 mentions such burned-out buildings:

Although some giant blocks of buildings now are completely burned out, the Jews continue to stay in the dug-outs 2 to 3 meters below ground.


The buildings that the 10-cm howitzer was used against on 20 April 1943, on the other hand, seem to have been intact before being fired upon:

At about 1500 hrs. I managed to arrange that the block of buildings occupied by the Army Accommodation Office said to be occupied by 4,000 Jews is to be evacuated at once. The German manager was asked to call upon the Jewish workers to leave the block voluntarily. Only 28 Jews obeyed this order. Thereupon I resolved either to evacuate the block by force or to blow it up.


The list of units in operation on 30 April 1943 makes no mention of the 10-cm howitzer:

Used in the operation:
. Police 5/133
Security Police 3/36
Waffen SS 6/432
Engineer 2/40
Staff 3/7
.
Cordoning forces: .
. Waffen SS 3/318
German Police 2/89
Trawniki men
moreover some Polish Police 200


So the gun used on 30 April 1943 may have been a gun, either belonging to one of the units mentioned in the above-quoted list or specifically requested for the occasion, of another type and caliber than the 10-cm howitzer used on 20 April 1943.

This, in turn, means that the gun shown on the photos in question may have been of the type and caliber that denierbud claims to have identified, without this signifying that the mention of a 10-cm howitzer in the daily report of 20 April 1943 and the supplementary report of the same day is mistaken, let alone that there’s a reason to suspect manipulation. According to the Lexikon der Wehrmacht, the German armed forced also used Soviet and Polish booty guns of the 75/76 mm calibers, namely the Soviet 7.62-cm-F.K. 295/1(r) gun of Soviet manufacture and the 7.5-cm-FK 02/26(p) and 7.5-cm-F.K. 97(p) guns of Polish provenance. The 7.5-cm-FK 02/26(p) seems to the same model as the “75mm wz. 02-26 Polish divisional field gun” that denierbud claims to have identified.

Stroop’s mention on 30 April 1943 of a strong-point in a burned-out block having to be taken out by artillery fire, incidentally, ridicules denierbud’s conjecture that the gun photos may be showing “Jewish and/or Polish resistance dressed as Nazis, using an old gun to bring down a building that is merely a bombed out façade, possibly hit by a German bomber in 1939”, on grounds that they seem to be shooting into an already destroyed building. “Why take out an already destroyed shell of a building?”, denierbud rhetorically asks. Well, buddy, the answer is provided in Stroop’s daily report of 30 April 1943, as pointed out above. Read before writing.

In the same paragraph, denierbud further indulges in amusing conjectures about the “grinning man” with that “stereotypical German face” (a German national myself, I didn’t know that there was such a thing as a “stereotypical German face”) in the “Stroop report gun photo” that I have shown is not part of any specimen of the Stroop Report and therefore irrelevant to this discussion. He also wonders why the men in this photo show no concern about sniper fire “from the buildings on either side of them”. Apart from the fact that, as we shall see in the next part of this commentary, the ghetto resistance fighters didn’t exactly have many rifles to snipe at their opponents, the idea that the gun might have been set up in an already secured part of the ghetto to fire at one of the “tougher” areas apparently did not occur to our genius.

Now to SS-Brigadefuehrer and Major General of Police Stroop and his alleged expertise in artillery. What can be gathered from online sources about Stroop’s service in World War I is that he was a volunteer, that he was wounded and awarded the Iron Cross 2nd Class, and that after the war, he returned to work at the land register. How this would necessarily give him “25 years of experience with howitzers”, as denierbud claims, is beyond my understanding, but maybe denierbud knows something about the man that I don’t.

As to denierbud’s claim that Stroop would have reviewed ammunition orders for the howitzer, it should be borne in mind that this was Wehrmacht equipment which, while allocated to an SS operation, may well have been used under the command and responsibility of a Wehrmacht officer, who accordingly may have been the one to review ammunition orders. That the Wehrmacht operated with a certain autonomy within the scope of this operation is suggested by Stroop’s pointing out the excellent cooperation with the Wehrmacht on several occasions, see the reports of 22 April 1943 and 10 May 1943.

Last but not least, a word about the use of howitzers in urban combat, which denierbud considers them not to be the “best choice” for. Here is what an expert of the Foreign Military Studies Office, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, thinks about the matter (emphases are mine):

The Russians learned that conventional artillery fires are used during the approach to the city and while capturing the city outskirts. Then, the Russians deploy the bulk of their self-propelled artillery in direct-fire support of tanks and infantry. Since massed artillery fires create rubble in the very areas through which a force wants to advance, direct-fire is preferable. Direct fire can be conducted by guns, howitzers, multiple rocket launchers and the 82mm Vasilek automatic mortar. When Russian forces arrived at Grozny, they had few fire support coordinators and forward air controllers. Motorized rifle officers were not skilled in adjusting indirect artillery fire, but could readily aim and adjust direct fire.


In another article co-authored by the same author, it is noted that

Self-propelled howitzers will provide better direct-fire support to the infantry.


And in this article about the military force that denierbud obviously hates most, we read the following:

Direct-fire artillery can be a valuable tool in urban combat provided one does not care about collateral damage. The IDF made extensive use of point-blank, direct-fire artillery, especially 155mm self-propelled howitzers, during the fighting in Beirut in a technique called “sniping”. The much heavier 155mm high explosive projectiles were found especially effective in reducing strong-points and reinforced buildings; in some cases, causing the entire building to collapse.


So howitzers seem to be an adequate weapon for direct fire in urban combat.

The conclusions to be derived from all above considerations are that there was no “forger” who “got the gun wrong”, but that denierbud got just about everything wrong in this … well, let’s be gentle and call it a nice try.


2. “A weapons caliber that doesn't exist” (item 7 of the section “Ten Other Points to Consider”)

Based on his anonymous Australian artillery buff’s input, denierbud triumphantly blusters away as follows:

An Australian man who has studied WWII weapons for many years, brought to my attention that the type of anti-aircraft gun mentioned in the report is a "2.28-cm A.A. Gun." The problem is that caliber doesn't exist. "2.28 cm" was not a caliber used by any military. But that's not the only problem with this gun. We read the full line:

3 2.28-cm A.A. Guns 2/24

They have 3 guns and "2/24" means 2 officers and 24 enlisted men. It would thus appear that 8 enlisted men operate each gun. The problem is that in the German army, there was a 4-man crew for anti-aircraft guns. Not 8. How did the forger make this mistake? She likely had access to some fairly poor reference material or photos and didn't quite understand what she was looking at. For instance 2.28 meter is the chassis width for a German anti-tank gun, the Wespe and Marder II. Would a general writing this with everything fresh in his mind make this mistake? No. It's about as likely as a rural American making a mistake for "a 22 rifle" and calling it a "21.28 rifle." It's hard to believe that it's a clerical error when you consider it represented a significant part of his arsenal, and that he would have been signing off for nearly a month on ammunition consumption and requisition forms for it. See list of weapons here and here.


The weapons caliber "2.28 cm" doesn’t seem to have existed indeed, that much is true. What the “list of weapons” (more precisely: the list of units at Stroop’s disposal as of 20 April 1943) obviously refers to is a 2 cm anti-aircraft gun, as can be seen from the following mention of the same hardware in Stroop’s supplementary teletype report of 20.04.1943:

The A.A. Artillery - 3 2-cm. guns used for this operation had two men killed.


2 cm or 20 mm anti-aircraft guns of various types were widely used by German armed forces in World War II. They are presented on the Lexikon der Wehrmacht site.

So this mention of “3 2.28-cm A.A. Guns” is either the result of manipulation or a plain and simple mistake.

Manipulation is an unlikely possibility if one considers (arguments related to the document as a whole and its context aside) that denierbud’s female forger, as denierbud himself “for instance” assumes, would have needed to have at her disposal “some fairly poor reference material” about German hardware that was produced and applied in comparatively low numbers (and about which “reference material” would be accordingly hard to come about, harder at any rate than reference material about, say, the most common light anti-aircraft cannon used by the German army, navy and air force), namely the tank destroyers Marder II (“From June 1942 to June 1943, FAMO, MAN and Daimler-Benz produced 576 Marder II vehicles. In addition, 75 were converted from July 1943 to March 1944.”) and Wespe (“Ausf F was produced by FAMO of Breslau (Wroclaw) and some 1400 chassis were manufactured, while 524 were completed as tanks from 1941 to 1943.”). Then she would have had to be not only ignorant of military matters, but suffering from such elementary confusion as to make the chassis width of either of these tank destroyers, 2.28 meters, into a “2.28 cm” caliber of an anti-aircraft gun (why “convert” a tank destroyer into an anti-aircraft gun in the first place?) when writing page 2 of Stroop’s first teletype report of 20 April 1943. After that, she would have had to realize her mistake and correct it in the supplementary teletype report of 20.04.1943:

The A.A. Artillery - 3 2-cm. guns used for this operation had two men killed.


but forget to correct it in the immediately preceding teletype report! It takes a “Revisionist” conspiracy theorist to contemplate so far-fetched a scenario.

A plain and simple mistake, on the other hand, is a far more likely possibility if one considers (arguments related to the document as a whole and its context aside) that one of the anti-aircraft weapons used on the German home front (and thus probably also in occupied territories well behind the battlefront), according to the Lexikon der Wehrmacht, was the Swiss-made 2-cm-Flak 28 Oerlikon, the “28” in the designation of this weapon apparently referring to the year 1928, in which it had first been introduced in the German armed forces. Stroop probably did not type his teletype messages himself but had them copied from his handwriting by a teletype operator, and it is altogether possible that

a) Stroop referred to the weapon as “Flak 2 cm 28” in his handwritten draft,
b) the teletype operator wrongly assumed that the “28” referred not to the type of the weapon but was a part of its caliber measurement (“2 centimeters and 28”), and
c) the teletype operator thus made Stroop’s “Flak 2 cm 28” into a “Flak 2.28 cm”.

There may have been a subsequent attempt to rectify or at least signal this mistake. This is suggested by the presence of a smudge over the dot separating the “2” from the “28” in “2.28 cm”, which is visible in this facsimile, and by the fact that there is a dot separating whole numbers from decimals in the figure, which is contrary to German usage. Germans separate decimals from whole numbers by a comma instead of a dot (as in “3,14”) the dot being used to separate thousands from hundreds and millions from thousands (as in “5.721.800”), unless the separation is signaled by blanks (“5 721 800”) – the exact opposite of Anglo-Saxon usage. So it may be that an original comma in “Flak 2,28 cm” was erased and replaced by a dot to signal to the reader that was what meant was a Flak 2.0 cm of the “28” type, and that the “cm” at the end of the designation was in the wrong place. Needless to say, such hurried semi-correction is far more likely to have originated with SS commander Stroop under pressure to send the teletype report to his superior than with a forger at leisure to, if necessary, retype the whole page containing this mistake.

The 2 cm Flak 28 Oerlikon, according to this page, was operated by four gunners: one for putting the sights on the target and operating the trigger, two for adjusting the sights’ distance and direction, and one in charge of providing the ammunition. The latter task, however, might have to be carried out by a greater number of gunners in practice, in order to keep up a rapid firing sequence involving not only steady ammunition supply but also substituting the gun’s barrel when it became too hot. The 2 cm Flak 30, a model introduced by the German armed forces in 1934 and later largely replaced by the 2 cm Flak 38, required 8 men to operate, according to the Lexikon der Wehrmacht (my translation):

The weapon’s operation required eight men: one lead gunner, one gunner, one man on the distance measuring device and five load gunners who were completely busy getting the ammunition and exchanging barrels that had become too hot.


Thus there is the possibility that the Wehrmacht 2 cm anti-aircraft guns mentioned by Stroop were Flak 28 operated in a manner similar to that of the Flak 30 guns.

Another possibility is that Stroop had requested or originally been announced Flak 28 guns but was actually issued Flak 30 guns, and that, being under pressure, he mixed up the two when scribbling down the text of the teletype report in question.

Conversely, it is also possible that Stroop had requested or originally been announced Flak 30 guns but was actually issued Flak 28 guns, and that he incorrectly assumed that the latter had the same operating crew as the well-known former. As already explained in the discussion of denierbud’s “wrong gun” claim, Stroop’s having served in World War I need not have meant that he was an artillery expert; this applies especially in regard to weapons that did not yet exist during his World War I service. As to the argument that Stroop would have been “signing off for nearly a month on ammunition consumption and requisition forms”, which is only relevant assuming that the flak guns were in use throughout the month-long operation even though they are only mentioned in two daily reports, the same objection applies as in regard to the 10-cm howitzer: as the flak guns were Wehrmacht and not SS equipment, and as the Wehrmacht may have been operating with a certain degree of autonomy under Stroop’s overall command, it is possible that the man in charge of signing ammunition requests for these guns was not Stroop, but a Wehrmacht officer.

Yet another possible reason for the flak guns in question being serviced by what denierbud claims is too high a number of troops is that the manpower of the 3 Wehrmacht anti-aircraft guns consisted not only of the men necessary to load, maneuver and fire the guns proper. According to the Kriegsstärkenachweisung (KStN) of a Wehrmacht Heeres-Flakbatterie 8,8cm as of 01.11.1943, this battery included a light flak platoon (leichter Flakzug) with 3 2-cm Flak 38 anti-aircraft guns, one light vehicle, three trucks and one trailer. Its was commanded by one platoon leader (Zugführer), which suggests that the flak platoon mentioned by Stroop had an auxiliary unit attached to it and therefore a different command structure was required than for the “model” light flak platoon we are looking at. The latter’s roster consisted of three lead gunners (Geschützführer), 9 gunners (Kanoniere), three distance measurers (Entfernungsmesser) and four drivers (Kraftwagenfahrer) – altogether 19 men, thereof 15 manning the guns or five per gun. This light flak platoon was part of a larger unit, which included certain “central” detachments serving all sub-units, such as the communications echelon (Nachrichtenstaffel), the vehicle maintenance group (Kfz.Instandsetzungstrupp), the munitions echelon (Munitionsstaffel) and the battery baggage (Batterietross). Had it been allocated to an operation outside its mother unit under the overall command of an SS-officer, like the Wehrmacht anti-aircraft platoon involved in the crushing of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, it would not have benefited from such synergies and might have needed to take along men in charge of communications, vehicle maintenance, ammunition handling and other tasks in order to be a self-sufficient, its roster thus being larger than when operating within the scope of the battery it belonged to. It must further be taken into consideration that some KStN “went through several changes and updates during the war”, so the KStN we have just looked at, as well as any other of a similar unit, may have provided for more troops in the light flak platoon on another date.

We can thus conclude not only that denierbud’s claim about there necessarily being “a 4-man crew for anti-aircraft guns” in the “German army” is dead wrong even assuming that he meant the 2-cm caliber alone (if he meant all types of AA guns, one might add that, for instance, the Geschützstaffel of our “model” 8.8 army flak battery had 4 lead gunners and 36 gunners manning its four 8.8 anti-aircraft guns, i.e. 10 men per gun), but also that there are several banal explanations for the troop strength of Stroop’s anti-aircraft unit (or units, assuming that a separate unit in charge of communications, ammunition handling or other tasks was added to the flak platoon) being 24 men, all of them more realistic than denierbud’s fantasy of a female forger doubling the gun crews because she ignorantly misread some “reference material”.

In what concerns the caliber of the guns, the explanation of a plain and simple transcription mistake, possibly related to a misunderstanding on the part of a teletype operator, has been shown to be far more realistic, even if considered independently of other arguments, than the far-fetched back-and-forth scenario that denierbud’s forgery claim implies.


3. Conclusion

Having thus dealt with denierbud’s artillery nonsense, and before moving on to other conjectures in the fellow’s “essay”, I would like to finish this exercise by pointing out the highly contradictory image of their “forgers” that conspiraloons like denierbud have:

On the one hand, their black beasts are supposed to have been so unbelievably crafty, clever, resourceful and influential as to produce a detailed 75-page document in German (consisting mostly of daily teletype reports with file numbers and other formal features and precise information such as data about the units and forces involved, and including a casualty list with about 100 names and unit designations), add 53 pages of elaborately manipulated photographs, make the whole thing look so authentic and in line with other evidence that no criminal investigator and no historian ever found anything wrong with it, and finally make sure that Stroop himself confirmed the document’s authenticity against better knowledge.

On the other hand, however, denierbud’s manipulators are supposed to have been so incredibly stupid as to not adequately inform themselves about the contents of what they were manipulating and to use and misread “fairly poor reference material” in a manner suggesting not only technical ignorance but (at least in what concerns the mistaking of a tank destroyer’s chassis width for an anti-aircraft gun’s caliber that denierbud speculates on) downright feeble-mindedness.

So, what are your “forgers” supposed to be, folks?

The evil geniuses required to pull off the highly elaborate manipulations that you believe in?

Or the dumb buggers required to commit the supposed blunders you make a fuss about?

You can’t have both.

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Thanks to Sergey for his valuable input.


Continuation:

“The Stroop Report is a Forgery” (Part 2)