Saturday, October 05, 2013

Jürgen Graf keeps on giving

Apparently beside himself with rage about our contemptuous reaction to MGK’s monster pamphlet ([large PDF]) in the blogs Jürgen Graf at his best and The Steaming Pile of MGK Manure is Here, Jürgen Graf let fly in some publication of the extreme right with this stuff (not sure how to categorize it, maybe it was meant to be a satire), which will be translated hereafter for what it further reveals about the intellectual level, mindset and character of one of the world’s leading "Revisionists".

Graf isn’t stated to be the author of this pearl, but the rank stupidity of it alone would point to him even if it were not for the puerile bragging about the aforementioned monster pamphlet and for another of Graf’s "Lieber Esel" e-mails, which I received last Friday evening.



The e-mail reads as follows:

Lieber Esel Muehlenkamp,

Nun hat eine aufrechte Antifaschistin Ihnen endgueltig die Maske vom Gesicht gerissen und Sie als trojanischen Esel der Neonazis entlarvt!

Viel Spass bei der "Widerlegung"; sie wird Sie und die anderen vier Esel bestimmt sechs Jahre lang in Anspruch nehmen.

J. Graf

My translation:
Dear donkey Muehlenkamp,

Now a righteous anti-fascist has finally torn the mask off your face and exposed you as a Trojan donkey of the neo-Nazis!

Have fun with the "refutation"; it will surely keep you and the other four donkeys busy for six years.

J. Graf

Graf’s glory in the "NationalJournal" translates as follows:
Holocaust-Denier Roberto Muehlenkamp: The grisly truth

By Lesbileila Dummermuth, President of the Antifascist League against Holocaust Denial

[Photo] Roberto Muehlenkamp, secret Nazi, born in the jungle to bring down the Holo. His father gassed three million Lichtenstein Jews on the day after Hitler’s taking power.

We male and female antifascists of the Antifascist League against Holocaust denial know that one should never ever enter into a discussion with the racist, anti-Semitic and neo-fascist neo-Nazis, who cynically deny with pseudoscientific arguments the commonly known historical fact of the world-historically unique murder of six million Jews by the inhuman Nazi regime. For these deniers produce their pseudoscientific arguments in such a diabolically able manner that no normal person can refute them. For this reason we of the Antifascist League against Holocaust Denial basically hold the position that the most effective and hard-hitting argument against Holocaust denial is Section 130 of our Criminal Code, which punishes said crime with up to five years imprisonment.

Unfortunately there are still antifascists foolish enough to try refuting the deniers on an objective level. Experience shows that this leads to no good results, as the deniers are hereby given an aura of respectability. Much more dangerous, however, is the fact that some Holocaust-denying neo-Nazis ably disguise themselves as antifascists in order to damage the true antifascists' reputation. The worst of these Trojan donkeys is a certain Roberto Muehlenkamp, who together with several of his companions from the brown swamp conducts the blog "Holocaust Controversies". On this blog they constantly produce arguments against Holocaust denial, which are so feeble-minded as to create confusion among fellow humans with insufficient historical knowledge and arouse the impression that the deniers may be right.

Together with four other neo-Nazis disguised as antifascists – Jonathan Harrison, Jason Myers, Sergey Romanov und Nicholas Terry – Roberto Muehlenkamp put a thick screed in PDF-Format on the Internet, which claims to refute the Holocaust deniers Carlo Mattogno, Jürgen Graf and Thomas Kues, who cynically deny the existence of gas chambers in the camps Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka ("Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka. Holocaust Denial and Operation Reinhard. A Critique of the Falsehoods of Mattogno, Graf and Kues"). It beggars description what idiocies are produced here especially by Muehlenkamp. Among other things he claims that 28 people can stand on one square meter! Hereby Muehlenkamp maliciously creates the impression that opponents of Holocaust denial are a bunch of hollow-heads.

Now Mattogno, Graf und Kues published a response ("The 'Extermination Camps' of Aktion Reinhard. An Analysis and Refutation of Factitious 'Evidence', Deception and Flawed Argumentation of the 'Controversial Bloggers'"), in which the idiotic arguments of Muehlenkamp and his brown accomplices are taken apart on over 1500 pages and the five supposed "antifascists" are exposed to ridicule. That was the objective of this false flag operation from the beginning.

Who is Roberto Muehlenkamp? Thanks to years of research carried out under constant threat of life, in which she again and again infiltrated the neo-Nazi scene under false identity, our comrade Andrea Röpke brought to light the whole grisly truth about this man. Roberto Muehlenkamp is the son of the worst of all Nazi criminals, SS-Ober-Unterrottenführer Adolfo Muehlenkamp, who on 31 January 1933, the day after Hitler’s taking of power, with his own hands gassed three million Lichtenstein Jews in the giant swamps by Vaduz. (See Schmul-Habakuk Flunkerich, "Adolfo Muehlenkamp, the gas hangman of the Vaduz swamps", Manure Editors 2013). After the war Adolfo Muehlenkamp fled with the help of reactionary circles in the Vatican to South America and erected a training camp for right-wind radical terrorists in the Colombian jungle. In this camp his son Roberto was born. (Our comrade Andrea Röpke was there, disguised as a midwife.)

On 1 September 2001, the 62nd anniversary of Adolf Hitler's march into Poland, Adolfo Muehlenkamp flew to Afghanistan and met Osama Bin Laden in a cave, to concoct the attacks on the twin towers. (Our comrade Andrea Röpke was there, disguised as a djihadist.) Ten days later, in the night of 10 to 11 September, Osama Bin Laden and Adolfo Muehlenkamp met in a New York striptease bar, in order to put the final touches on their terror plan over whiskey and gin. (Our comrade Andrea Röpke was there, disguised as a nude dancer.) After the towers collapsed Adolfo Muehlenkamp flew back to Colombia and built a training camp for Holocaust deniers in the jungle, which was attended by, among others, his son Roberto as well as his neo-fascist companions Jonathan Harrison, Jason Myers, Sergey Romanov and Nicholas Terry. (Our comrade Andrea Röpke was there, disguised as a Shoa-denier.) Thereafter Roberto Muehlenkamp, together with his neo-Nazi accomplices, founded the website "Holocaust Controversies" and issued the mentioned ridiculous pamphlet against Mattogno, Graf und Kues, in order to make a mock of all righteous antifascists.

We appeal to all antifascists and opponents of Holocaust denial to under no circumstances visit the website "Holocaust Controversies" and to beware of the Trojan donkey Roberto Muehlenkamp and his brown accomplices!

I wouldn't be surprised if one of Graf's companions were not too happy about Graf's shooting himself and them in the foot with beer-hall hollering like the above. While Mattogno is prone to similarly illustrative utterances, I can picture Thomas Kues, who seems to be the least hysterical of the three (at least when writing in English), trying to talk some sense into his co-author Graf, sort of like: "Look, Jürgen, I know you’re mad, but stuff like that shows too clearly what we’re after and makes us look like a bunch of idiots, so please control yourself."

I for my part hope for further self-portraying freakouts from Jürgen Graf. The free publicity for HC will be an added benefit.

43 comments:

Nathan said...

Wow. What a bunch of losers.

Is there anything proving a connection to Lisciotto and co?

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

No, but it's a fact that the supposedly skeptical "Revisionists" fell for Lisciotto's psychopathic smear (which anyone in his right mind would recognize as such) like a bunch of gullible kindergarten kids.

The Black Rabbit of Inlé said...

That's unfair Roberto. Meaning: that's untrue.

MGK did not fall for deathcamps.org's assertion that some members of HC are "responsible for producing countless fakes and forgeries, which they tried to implant on the www.deathcamps.org website. They did this over a number of years, long before they applied for membership to our team, courtesy of Michael Peters, and later during their probationary membership period. Even going so far as to mastermind a devious approach of mixing fakes and forgeries with genuine items, in a way that would be difficult to detect."
http://www.deathcamps.org/editorial2013.html

MGK state repeatedly that all the authors of HC book are guilty of plagiarism, but they document how these plagiarism were committed and who were your victims.

I've checked more than one of these plagiarism claims for myself and so far I've found that they all hold up. I posted an example on JH manure post.

Alan Rembach said...

You've obviously struck a nerve! These ramblings are inane, bitter and inconsistent...more like the words of a nutter rather than elequent satire which might have been his goal....keep up the good work Roberto! :D

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

«That's unfair Roberto. Meaning: that's untrue.

MGK did not fall for deathcamps.org's assertion that some members of HC are "responsible for producing countless fakes and forgeries, which they tried to implant on the www.deathcamps.org website. They did this over a number of years, long before they applied for membership to our team, courtesy of Michael Peters, and later during their probationary membership period. Even going so far as to mastermind a devious approach of mixing fakes and forgeries with genuine items, in a way that would be difficult to detect."
http://www.deathcamps.org/editorial2013.html

MGK state repeatedly that all the authors of HC book are guilty of plagiarism, but they document how these plagiarism were committed and who were your victims.»

According to their somewhat bizarre definition of "plagiarism", yeah.

«I've checked more than one of these plagiarism claims for myself and so far I've found that they all hold up.»

That's no surprise, coming as it does from a faithful follower whose understanding of "plagiarism" presumably matches MGK's own. Who am I supposed to have "plagiarized" according to your "checking", by the way?

«I posted an example on JH manure post.»

Which seems to be the lone carrot found by a blind rabbit so far.

Anyway, I was not referring to the "plagiarism" accusations. I was referring to stuff like Graf's quoting the "scathing rebuke" to NT, SR and me on the ARC website (page 15 of the monster pamphlet).

Roberto Lucena said...

People who liked the MGK pamphlet:
Neo-nazi blog
A Far-Right Italian Mattogno's friend blog called Andrea Carancini

Rabbit, someone who uses the ARC bogus Carmelo/Webb website/forum as "proof" of something is a clear sign of stupidity, I don't even need to mention the Lisciotto's psychotic stalking.

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

«Rabbit, someone who uses the ARC bogus Carmelo/Webb website/forum as "proof" of something is a clear sign of stupidity, I don't even need to mention the Lisciotto's psychotic stalking.»

MGK not only fell like clay pigeons for the smear on Lisciotto/Webb's website, but jumped from that smear to the conclusion that «orthodox historians and propagandists loathe the Holocaust Controversies blog, and even – as in the case of
the ARC website – "caution all to avoid being misled by these individuals."»
(p. 19).

MGK may have had no way of knowing that our critique will be quoted in at least one upcoming word of historiography, but they could at least have checked the THHP list of links, where they would have found no reference to ARC (it used to be there but was deleted) but the following endorsement of HC:

«Holocaust Controversies blog site http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.de

This blog, which includes contributions by some current THHP members and other academics, contains a massive number of very well researched essays, some of book length, on historical aspects of the Holocaust, including refutation of Holocaust deniers. See among many others the book length scholarly work Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka: Holocaust Denial and Operation Reinhard. Highly recommended.»


And it they had gone to the HDOT website, they would have found that HC articles are referred to in the following "Myth/Fact Sheets":

80,000 People Cannot Be Buried In A Grave The Size Of A Henhouse

There are no Mass Graves in Belzec

Mass Incineration: Not Enough Room To Crush The Bones

Poland's cold and snowy weather would have inhibited the incineration process

The bodies of Jewish victims would not have burned "on their own"

The incineration fires would have needed to much wood: Part 1 of 2

The incineration fires would have needed to much wood: Part 2 of 2

MGK can't have checked these sites, otherwise they wouldn't have jumped from Lisciotto/Webb's smear to the conclusion that «orthodox historians and propagandists
loathe the Holocaust Controversies blog, and even – as in the case of
the ARC website – "caution all to avoid being misled by these individuals."»


Or they they were aware of these sites endorsing or referring to HC but preferred to sweep them under the carpet so as not to ruin their show.

Jonathan Harrison said...

If anyone wants a proper example of dishonesty, try this comparison:

Graf's table of contents: "Why the Holocaust Controversies Blog is Loathed by Holocaust Historians"

Graf's epilogue: "They were assisted by a host of Holocaust historians they diligently enumerate in their introduction."



Jonathan Harrison said...

Or try this by Mattogno from page 268:

"Harrison lies without reservation in saying that “Wisliceny referred to an extermination order by Himmler in April 1942,” because Himmler explicitly referred to the Führer order for the “final solution of the Jewish question,” which for Wisliceny was given by Hitler at that time and for the first time."

Compare that with the testimony (point 4):

http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/genocide/wisliceny.htm

This clearly refers to the order being by Himmler, who only refers to a 'decision' by Hitler, and shows that all details of the implementation, such as temporary exemptions for labour, were delegated to "Chief of the Security Police and SD [Heydrich, as at Wannsee] and the Inspector of Concentration Camps [Glücks]" and to "Eichmann's hands subject to approval of Heydrich and later Kaltenbrunner".

Furthermore, Hitler's 'decision' at this point concerned when the Final Solution should commence. It was not 'the decision' to kill the Jews in principle; the wording clearly implies that that decision had been taken earlier and was already known to the recipients of Himmler's order.

Mattogno either hasn't read the affadavit properly or is a liar. Either way, his accusing me of lying without evidently checking the affadavit or quoting the relevant part in full shows what lowlife he is.

Jonathan Harrison said...

We stated in the critique that there will be errors. However, the plagiarism smear can be refuted by simply asking readers to go to the pdf and see how many times the word 'citing' appears in the footnotes. Clearly we endeavored to list these citations correctly. Any cases where I personally failed to do so were sloppy not intentional but we have already stated that we will correct this, and Mattogno even quotes that commitment on page 225.

Gilles Karmasyn said...

I really don't understand the fuss (well I do in fact of course...) I very often am made aware of a specific source through secondary works. When relevant I try to get my hand on this primary source or document. If I can check the original source, I do and then I feel perfectly right if I refer directly to that source *because I did check*. And if the translation from the secondary work is perfect, I don't think I should slightly alter it just to make sure an MGK clone won't accuse me of "plagiarism"! There is a confusion there on the role of endnotes and references. It's not there to prove you did your homework nor to impress the reader (deniers do use endnotes as golden paint to make their logorrhoea glitter), it's there to help the reader understand where you got the information and allow him to check and go him/herself further if need be. Well, if I read the primary source, I feel perfectly entitled to cite it without reference to the secondary one, especially if the latter is not an obscure one. Of course, I may also cite the secondary source, for example if my translation significantly differs (ah!), or if the secondary source provides a context on which I have no opportunity to elaborate. A real plagiarist would of course slightly alter the translation. MGK's excitment about those absolutely unremarkble observations just proves how desperate they are.

Jonathan Harrison said...

Gilles, many thanks. MGK partly take this position because they never really engaged with secondary literature before 2011, so they don't see how research relates to work done by previous scholars.

MGK have a fallacy that a man walks into an archive having done no previous reading, and he builds his hypothesis only from the primary documents he sees. He must never have any faith in the translation done by a previous scholar.

Furthermore, there are times when MGK contradict this by using other people's translations, such as Donat's translation for Wiernik. They clearly did not translate every witness statement they have ever cited from the original language text, such as Yiddish. The fetish for the original language cannot always be satisfied because of access and availability of the originals.

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

«If anyone wants a proper example of dishonesty, try this comparison:

Graf's table of contents: "Why the Holocaust Controversies Blog is Loathed by Holocaust Historians"

Graf's epilogue: "They were assisted by a host of Holocaust historians they diligently enumerate in their introduction."»

Poor Jürgen has two big problems.

One is his dishonesty.

Another is that he's dumb as a door.

No hateblogs said...

All of Roberto's lies about ARC are just that, lies.

The fact is the HC guys tried to steal another groups website. They attempted to do so through the creation of fake photos and documents. They were prevented from doing so when Mr. Chris Webb, the man who owned the site, brought in an IT expert to assess the situation. That man was Mr. Lisciotto, the name you will hear so maligned at Holocaust Controversies. He caught them in the act, cleaned up Mr. Webbs ARC site, and then went on with Webb to create a whole other site that was/is untainted by the scum of HC. Since then, there has been nothing but hatred for Webb and Lisciotto by HC members. Just peruse this idiotic blog and you will find tons of moronic posts and bullshit. Webb and Lisciotto also told their story to fellow historians and the word got out about what lousy people Muehlenkamp, Terry, Romanov, and the other HC people are. So what can Roberto do? Other than attempt damage control by fabricating bullshit about two people he probably has never even met.

Can you blame the revisionists for locking on to such shameful actions on the part of HC members?
• Keep in mind that Roberto Muehlenkamp (by his own admission) suffers from a severe case of acute agitated depression and must consume a litany of chemical drugs to contain his outbursts.
• Sergey Romanov was proven by handwriting analysis and computer forensics to have been behind actual Holocaust fakes.
• Nick Terry is shown to plagiarize the work of others (well documented)
• Andrew Mathis has been proven (documented) to threaten bodily harm to people he doesn’t agree with.
• Michael Peters (also known as HANS at HC) was investigated for improper behavior with minors. (Documented)
This is who the Holocaust Controversies team is, and what they are about. Would any self-respecting person take such buffoons seriously on any subject?
…not if they have half a brain.

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

This was kept as an example of the lunatic ravings of psychopath Carmelo "Blogbuster" Lisciotto, which MGK took seriously, to their shame and disgrace:

«All of Roberto's lies about ARC are just that, lies.

The fact is the HC guys tried to steal another groups website. They attempted to do so through the creation of fake photos and documents. They were prevented from doing so when Mr. Chris Webb, the man who owned the site, brought in an IT expert to assess the situation. That man was Mr. Lisciotto, the name you will hear so maligned at Holocaust Controversies. He caught them in the act, cleaned up Mr. Webbs ARC site, and then went on with Webb to create a whole other site that was/is untainted by the scum of HC. Since then, there has been nothing but hatred for Webb and Lisciotto by HC members. Just peruse this idiotic blog and you will find tons of moronic posts and bullshit. Webb and Lisciotto also told their story to fellow historians and the word got out about what lousy people Muehlenkamp, Terry, Romanov, and the other HC people are. So what can Roberto do? Other than attempt damage control by fabricating bullshit about two people he probably has never even met.

Can you blame the revisionists for locking on to such shameful actions on the part of HC members?
• Keep in mind that Roberto Muehlenkamp (by his own admission) suffers from a severe case of acute agitated depression and must consume a litany of chemical drugs to contain his outbursts.
• Sergey Romanov was proven by handwriting analysis and computer forensics to have been behind actual Holocaust fakes.
• Nick Terry is shown to plagiarize the work of others (well documented)
• Andrew Mathis has been proven (documented) to threaten bodily harm to people he doesn’t agree with.
• Michael Peters (also known as HANS at HC) was investigated for improper behavior with minors. (Documented)
This is who the Holocaust Controversies team is, and what they are about. Would any self-respecting person take such buffoons seriously on any subject?
…not if they have half a brain.»


All future ravings by this madman will be deleted.

The Black Rabbit of Inlé said...

“Radio signals from KL Lublin to Berlin intercepted by Bletchley Park indicate that on April 30, there were 6,369 Jews interned in Majdanek, while two months later, on June 30, there were 9,779.” (The Manifesto, p. 196)

Your source: HW 16/10.

Rather vague isn't it? You could've just swiped that from Kranz et al.

What are the ZIP/GPCC numbers and dates on these two intercepts?

I was going to ask you what the designation for Majdanek is on these intercepts, but you can find that out online, so I won't bother.

Incidentally, as every British schoolboy knows (but Nicholas Terry doesn't)the decrypting was done at Bletchley, the intercepting was done at Chicksands.

Roberto Lucena said...

Carmelo, chooch for you, loony! :-D

hahahahahaha

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

«Carmelo, chooch for you, loony! :-D

hahahahahaha»

Further ravings from Carmelo "Blogbuster" Lisciotto, the psychopathic loony whose ravings MGK swallowed hook, line and sinker, have been deleted, as announced.

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

“Radio signals from KL Lublin to Berlin intercepted by Bletchley Park indicate that on April 30, there were 6,369 Jews interned in Majdanek, while two months later, on June 30, there were 9,779.” (The Manifesto, p. 196)

Your source: HW 16/10.

Rather vague isn't it? You could've just swiped that from Kranz et al.

What are the ZIP/GPCC numbers and dates on these two intercepts?

I was going to ask you what the designation for Majdanek is on these intercepts, but you can find that out online, so I won't bother.

Incidentally, as every British schoolboy knows (but Nicholas Terry doesn't)the decrypting was done at Bletchley, the intercepting was done at Chicksands.»


Looks like what we have here is the resentment towards an academic historian by a frustrate who never produced anything other than internet garbage.

And who is this frustrate talking to?

The Black Rabbit of Inlé said...

RM wrote:

"Looks like what we have here is the resentment towards an academic historian by a frustrate who never produced anything other than internet garbage.

And who is this frustrate talking to?"


You can't call a someone a 'frustrate,' well you can, as you just did, but it's fairly stupid. 'Frustrate' is a verb.

Once again, "what are the ZIP/GPCC numbers and dates on these two intercepts?

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

«You can't call a someone a 'frustrate,' well you can, as you just did, but it's fairly stupid. 'Frustrate' is a verb.»

Good, then I'll make that a frustrated rabbit. Better now?

«Once again, "what are the ZIP/GPCC numbers and dates on these two intercepts?»

You should address that question to the object of your frustration, but I doubt he will pay any attention to you.

Franz Holtzhäuser said...

Roberto Muehlenkamp,

Marvellous dodging & obfuscation, I must say. Marvellous!
FRANZ

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

«You can't call a someone a 'frustrate,' well you can, as you just did, but it's fairly stupid. 'Frustrate' is a verb.»

Good, then I'll make that a frustrated rabbit. Better now?

«Once again, "what are the ZIP/GPCC numbers and dates on these two intercepts?»

You should address that question to the object of your frustration, but I doubt he will pay any attention to you.

PS: The object of your frustration informed me that the answer to your question is the following:

ZIP/GPCC8/12.5.42
ZIP/GPCC43/2.7.42

Copied on October 13 2006 in Kew, after taking pencil notes in 2001.

Further questions will be answered when responding to MGK.

The Black Rabbit of Inlé said...

RM wrote:

"PS: The object of your frustration informed me that the answer to your question is the following:

ZIP/GPCC8/12.5.42
ZIP/GPCC43/2.7.42


Copied on October 13 2006 in Kew, after taking pencil notes in 2001" ..... at the PRO, obviously.

The citations are correct. Remember to correctly cite them in The Return of the Manifesto.



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Franz Holtzhäuser said...

I'm wondering - and interested to know - why Robero insists on calling the latest work by MGK a “pamphlet”?
I excitedly note, also, that, on the previous Holocaust Controversies' forum (RODOH): Roberro is reduced to cheap repeats, posting decidedly unrelated photos, obfuscation and blatant lies in response to the revisionists over there (in particular his opponent b0b). How could Roberta expect to get away with it?

« Harrison put it before him, and Roberto looked at the back of the volume with a leisurely disdain. They both stared, without breathing, while he conned it over. When he came about half-way, he whistled; and when he arrived at the end, he frowned hard; and squeezed his lips together till the red disappeared altogether, and he looked again at the back of the book, and then turned it round, once more reading the last line over with a severe expression. »

I'm currently reading ‘The House by the Churchyard’ and some of it reminds me of our bumbling moron Muehlenkamp.
FRANZ

Roberto Lucena said...

"MGK can't have checked these sites, otherwise they wouldn't have jumped from Lisciotto/Webb's smear to the conclusion that «orthodox historians and propagandists
loathe the Holocaust Controversies blog, and even – as in the case of
the ARC website – "caution all to avoid being misled by these individuals."»

Or they they were aware of these sites endorsing or referring to HC but preferred to sweep them under the carpet so as not to ruin their show."


Roberto, I bet on the second hypothesis. In any case, your comment is good because when some people who don't know who are Webb/Lisciotto read the spam-stalking from that duo on web, they'll understand the origin of this garbage.

The best answer for this wacko is "Chooch!" (from that RODOH's "Chooch Guy"). It's impossible any normal dialogue with this loony, although the Mastermind of the duo (C. Webb) ever had hidden away behind Carmelo's lunacy as a coward.

Franz Holtzhäuser said...

Mr. Lucena,

You appear to be choochin' quite a bit, yourself.
FRANZ

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

I see that "Franz" continues yelling for attention (or trying to kick his frustration) by parroting a coreligionist's mendacious BS (even including said coreligionist's infantile "lie" accusations), projecting his own habits and tendencies onto the object of his apparent obsessions, and through his obnoxious behavior showing our readers what human garbage it is that "Revisionism" appeals to.

Please continue along that line, "Franz".

Franz Holtzhäuser said...

I’m not sure I follow you, Mr. Muehlenkamp. What “mendacious BS” am I parroting?
FRANZ

Roberto Lucena said...

"Mr. Lucena,
You appear to be choochin' quite a bit, yourself."


Franz,

Sorry to disappoint you, but the Chooch title is exclusive for Italian-American loony, I could never receive this honor. But "Holtzhäuser" is a Austrian surname, ain't it? Austria is close to Italy, then you can be guest of honor at the Chooch Mafia Carmelo's club.

:-)

Franz Holtzhäuser said...

Haha. Chooch!
FRANZ

Franz Holtzhäuser said...

Roberto:

Kuensl has offered his services for your up and coming project, it seems.

A Proposal for Roberto Muehlenkamp

This is very generous of him judging by the fact that Kuensl is what you would label a “Holocaust Denier”.
FRANZ

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

Attention-whore "Kuensl" aka "Franz Holtzhäuser" is even sillier than Jürgen Graf, it seems. I suggest that "Franz Holtzhäuser" stand in front of the mirror and tell "Kuensl" where he can stick his "proposal". "Franz Holtzhäuser" may also inform his alter-ego that his contributions are always welcome for what they reveal about the infantile minds and despicable characters that "Revisionism" appeals to.

Franz Holtzhäuser said...

Look at this old dirtbag screeching about “infantile minds” and “despicable character”! It is like believing the Soviet when they announced that the Germans were guilty of the mass murder at Katyn, or some other equally unfounded claim.
Sort of like claiming that George W. Bush gives one an intelligent impression whilst knowing that to be not so.
FRANZ

Franz Holtzhäuser said...

I forgot to note: Roerberta is merely engaging in projection (he can do little else) when he writes about “infantile minds” and “despicable characters”, see for example this link,
k0nsl looks stupid.
The 'esteemed' hobbyist (I'd call him lobbyist) have left quite the trail of similar - and a lot worse - quotes.
FRANZ

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

The "infantile minds" and "despicable characters" remarks must have hit raw nerves, judging by how "Franz" freaked out into his "Roerberta" self-projection mode. He obviously was so mad that he sent two posts in a row, the poor soul.

Looking forward to further revelations about the infantile minds and despicable characters that "Revisionism" appeals to. Fire away, "Franz".

Franz Holtzhäuser said...

Bombs away, sire!
FRANZ

Daniel Moratori said...

The free publicity for HC...hahahahahha

Franz Holtzhäuser said...

Mario vs. Donkey Kong != Mattogno vs. Robertas

Why have you turned your blog into a dictatorship of crazy holocaustianity? Censor away, sire.
FRANZ

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

«Mario vs. Donkey Kong != Mattogno vs. Robertas»

Poor "Franz" still doesn't understand that no one is interested in the intimate tendencies he projects here.

«Why have you turned your blog into a dictatorship of crazy holocaustianity? Censor away, sire.»

Don't freak out, "Franz". This isn't the CODOH temple of the "Revisionist" religion, where Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis censors whatever he thinks may damage the faith. Moderation was introduced only to avoid having to remove Carmelo Lisciotto's psychopathic poop all the time.

Franz Holtzhäuser said...

Do you have a crush on Hannover, Roberta? You are very quick to mention this user — is it winds of frustration blowing from your rut...Ya, it is!
FRANZ

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

Lamely trying to get even for my remark about his self-projecting BS, "Franz" makes further revelations about his private problems.