Wednesday, May 21, 2008

Update on Gerdes & NAFCASH

Greg Gerdes has responded to my invitation and reported for debate on RODOH, in a manner that confirms my interpretation of NAFCASH as meaning "National Association of Fish-wives, Cretins and Screaming Hysterics".

The current RODOH thread involving Mr. Gerdes is this one:

What is a forensic criminologist?

Gerdes is now also howling around here.

Update, 17.06.2008

Gerdes is furthermore rambling away (in the company of his "White" buddies) on the thread Archeological Investigations of Treblinka of the "Vanguard News Network" forum (an "open arena" into which all opposition is welcome, according to one of the posters – and so far I have not been censored there indeed).

13 comments:

Lisa Hanson said...

Poor Roberto, It actually pains me to see him get so savagely abused like that. But then again, he did ask for it, didn't he?

Lisa Hanson said...

Oh my. What on earth is Roberto doing? Why is he doing this to himself? He falls into trap after trap. I wonder how he's going to get himself out of this one:

"RM:

"Kola’s findings show that, contrary to what may have been assumed before, not all corpses had been cremated. Duh!"

Duh? So the original graves that held the alleged 700,000 (or millions) bodoes were not completely emptied and thus not cremated at Treblnka?

Can you prove that Roberta? And if what you say is true, then that means these "huge mass graves" would be even easier to find!

Read this site here Roberta:

http://www.k9forensic.org/historical.html

Here is jus a sample ot the information you will find:

"Human remains detection dog teams were brought in to verify that the bones are human. All three dogs , which have been trained to detect human remains even thousand years old, positively identified the bones as human. The dogs and their handlers are part of Ames' Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team. After examining the remains, a forensic anthropologist concluded that the remains are most likely those of a prehistoric Native American. The remains were respectfully returned to their burial site, which was secured until a Native American representative could be notified.

A few days after the initial discovery, two archaeologists, one of whom works for the Army and the other a Native American representative, finished excavating the remains and removed them from the site. They estimated the remains to be between 4,000 and 5,000 years old."

If the dogs were able to locate just a few human bones that were 5 thousand years old, just think how easy it would be for them to locate the bones of 750,000 to 3 million people that are only 65 years old?

You just keep digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole Roberta."

There is simply nothing in the world that would be easier to do than locate the alleged "huge mass graves" of Treblinka. Anyone with half a brain would know this. Again, why is Roberto doing this to himself?

Lisa Hanson said...

Yes, properly trained dogs could locate those graves as easy as locating a fresh steak in their own dog house.

I bet Roberto is just kicking himself for falling into that trap, don't you think Jon?

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

>Poor Roberto, It actually pains me to see him get so savagely abused like that. But then >again, he did ask for it, didn't he?

Better feel sorry for your pal Gerdes, baby. His "savage" abuse comes in very handy in demonstrating that he’s not only a moron, but also an infantile Moron.

Really, Lisa, abusing a male opponent by calling him the female version of his Christian name is something I did as a kid in grade school. Poor Gerdes never grew up.

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

>Oh my. What on earth is Roberto doing? Why is he doing this to himself? He falls into trap >after trap.

Are you also as prone to wishful thinking as your friend Gerdes, Lisa? It would seem so.

>I wonder how he's going to get himself out of this one:

Piece of cake, Lisa. Read post # 91 under http://www.topix.com/forum/history/T1V7A87T8PL8H7P8C/p5#c91

>There is simply nothing in the world that would be easier to do than locate the alleged "huge >mass graves" of Treblinka.

That's hyperbole, but as soon as the memorial and its foundation have been removed (who will take care of that, Lisa?), locating the Treblinka mass graves or what’s left of them should be no harder than it was for Prof. Kola to locate the mass graves at Belzec. But as there’s no reasonable doubt about what happened at Treblinka, there’s no need to conduct such an investigation, however likely it is to be successful.

>Anyone with half a brain would know this.

Did I anywhere claim that there would be any particular difficulty involved in finding the mass graves at Treblinka, apart from the memorial having to be removed before starting to work and the grave structures probably having been largely obliterated by years of robbery-digging? Show me where, Lisa. Unless you find any statement of mine in this direction, I expect you to admit that you gullibly believed in another of Gerdes’ mendacious misrepresentations of his opponents’ statements.

>Again, why is Roberto doing this to himself?

What, slapping Gerdes’ nonsense around the poor fellow’s ears? It’s fun. You better ask Gerdes if he likes being kicked in the ass. It seems he does.

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

>Yes, properly trained dogs could locate those graves as easy as locating a fresh steak in their >own dog house.

>I bet Roberto is just kicking himself for falling into that trap, don't you think Jon?

What trap? Did I anywhere claim that there would be any particular difficulty involved in finding the mass graves at Treblinka, apart from the memorial having to be removed before starting to work and the grave structures probably having been largely obliterated by years of robbery-digging? Show me where, Lisa. Unless you find any statement of mine in this direction, I expect you to acknowledge that your belief in my having fallen into a "trap" is based not on something I actually stated, but on something you and Gerdes would like me to have stated.

Lisa Hanson said...

But you don't need to dissmantle the memorial Roberta. It seems pretty obvious that Mr. Gerdes is simply aking you to show him where, on a 1944 photo, that the "huge mass graves" are located.

What is the reason for your refusal to show Mr. Gerdes the location of the graves Roberto? What could be easier to do than show him the location where hundreds and hundreds of thousands of bodies are buried on an aerial photo of the site?

What are you waiting for Roberto?

Lisa Hanson said...

Oh Roberto, I just checked into the topix beating. I can see why you've run away from Mr.Gerdes. I was wondering why he was taking so long to get serious with you, but now I realize he was just giving you enough rope to hang yourself.(I can just feel the noose tightening around your neck Roberto.) You must be so embarassed.

Poor boy, but you did ask for it, didn't you? Just what were you thinking? Were you on drugs or something? But do you really think that running away is any way to finish something you started? That doesn't show much character now does it Roberto?

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

>But you don't need to dissmantle the memorial Roberta. It seems pretty obvious that Mr. >Gerdes is simply aking you to show him where, on a 1944 photo, that the "huge mass graves" >are located.

I’m waiting for Gerdes to explain why one should be able to identify the outlines of any mass grave in the mess of churned-up soil visible on this photograph. Any ideas, Lisa?

Ah, and you may also try explaining why the soil at Treblinka, especially in what is known to have been the "death camp" sector, looks the way it does, if Treblinka was nothing more than a "transit camp".

>What is the reason for your refusal to show Mr. Gerdes the location of the graves Roberto?

First of all, I don’t think the outlines of any of the mass graves can be made out on this photograph, due to how messed up the soil visible on this photograph is.

Second and more important, I don’t see why I should dance to Gerdes’ tune, especially as he hasn’t yet explained why he thinks the mass graves should be identifiable on this air photograph.

>What could be easier to do than show him the location where hundreds and hundreds of >thousands of bodies are buried on an aerial photo of the site?

Proving mass murder at Treblinka on hand of the known documentary, eyewitness and physical evidence, baby. And enjoying Gerdes inability to provide a good reason for doubting what becomes apparent from all this evidence.

>What are you waiting for Roberto?

Right now I'm waiting for Lisa’s explanation why she thinks nothing could be easier than identifying the location of the mass graves on the September 1944 photograph. Methinks the lady has no idea of what she is talking about, but I’m open to being convinced otherwise.

Roberto Muehlenkamp said...

>Oh Roberto, I just checked into the topix beating. I can see why you've run away from >Mr.Gerdes. I was wondering why he was taking so long to get serious with you, but now I >realize he was just giving you enough rope to hang yourself.(I can just feel the noose >tightening around your neck Roberto.) You must be so embarassed.

You must be hallucinating, darling. And it will be a cold day in hell before I run away from a sorry freak like Gerdes, trust me.

>Poor boy, but you did ask for it, didn't you? Just what were you thinking? Were you on drugs >or something? But do you really think that running away is any way to finish something you >started? That doesn't show much character now does it Roberto?

Your infantile baiting doesn’t show much character indeed, Lisa. Don’t disgrace yourself any further, that’s my piece of well-meaning advice.

Anonymous said...

What Part Of The Word Genocide Do You Not Understand?

"Gerdes is furthermore rambling away (in the company of his "White" buddies)"

So whites dont constitute a race then, clearly by the same token Jews dont constitute one either. Since Jews dont constitute a race they cannot therefore be the subject of attempted genocide.

Jonathan Harrison said...

The widely accepted definitions of genocide are never confined to a concept of 'race'. They include national, cultural, religious & ethnic groups.

In addition, if the group carrying out the killing regards the target group as a race (which the Nazis clearly did) then the killing is a genocide.

Anonymous said...

Does Lisa ever contribute anything of value? Seems to me she's just a poor excuse for a revisionist cheerleader.