Friday, September 29, 2006

Inevitabe parallels

To the Secretaries of oblast and regional party committees,
To the CCs of national Communist parties,
To the people's commissars of internal affairs,
and to the heads of NKVD directorates

It has become known to the VKP CC that the secretaries of oblast and regional party committees, in checking up on employees of NKVD directorates, have laid blame on them for the use of physical pressure against those who have been arrested, treating it as something criminal. The VKP CC affirms that the use of physical pressure in the work of the NKVD has been permitted since 1937 in accordance with a resolution of the VKP CC. This directive indicated that physical pressure was to be used in exceptional cases and only against blatant enemies of the people who, when interrogated by humane methods, defiantly refuse to turn over the names of co-conspirators, and who refuse for months on end to provide any evidence, and who try to thwart the unmasking of co-conspirators who are still at large, and who thereby continue even from prison to wage a struggle against the Soviet regime. Experience has shown that such an arrangement has produced good results and has greatly expedited the unmasking of enemies of the people. True, subsequently in practice the method of physical pressure was abused by Zakovsky, Litvin, Uspensky, and other scoundrels, converting it from an exception into a rule and beginning to apply it against honest people who had been arrested accidentally. For these abuses, they have been given due punishment. But this in no way detracts from the value of the method itself when it is properly used. It is known that all bourgeois secret services use physical pressure against representatives of the socialist proletariat and rely on especially savage methods of it. We might therefore ask why a socialist secret service should be any more more humane in relation to inveterate agent of the bourgeoisie and sworn enemies of the working class and collectivized farmers. The VKP CC believes that the use of physical pressure must absolutely be continued from here on in exceptional cases and against blatant and invidious enemies of the people, and that this is a perfectly appropriate and desirable method. The VKP CC demands that the secretaries of oblast and regional party committees and the CCs of national party committees bear in mind this explanation when they check up on the employees of NKVD directorates.

Secretary of the VKP CC
J. Stalin
10.1.1939

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow! So the NKVD tortured Nazi prisoners as did the british and of course the americans as they do untill today... That poor guy hoess what torture did he have to endure to confess three million auschwitz victims.

if you subtract the "confessions" from the little "hard" evidence for the holocaust there is, whats left? theres no forensics, no million bodys, no photos, nothing but circumstantial evidence gathered by atom-bomb-throwing and katyn-evidence-faking massmurderers...

Sergey Romanov said...

There is no evidence that any substantial number of Soviet Nazi interrogations were coerced (same goes for British, etc.).

Take the Topf engineers. They confessed almost immediately. People don't confess _falsely_ immediately. Coercion takes time. That's how we know that weren't coerced into testifying about the gas chambers. Etc.

All the other mountains of evidence (incl. forensics, bodies, photos) confirm that they testified truthfully.

BTW, how do you know that atom bombs were thrown and Katyn evidence was faked?

Lazar Kaganowitsch said...

Oh c'mon Sergey, i read the Nuremberg Transcripts and
there your NKVD "Investigators" lay it all down in fake documents: the Nazis murdered all those
polish Soldiers in Katyn in 1941. Not the NKVD in 1940. Even Eye-Whitnesses were provided by the dozens. Such "cheap" tortured/coerced whitnesses were
easy to come by in Stalinland. So why cant u understand my skepticizm when the *same* Investigators
that just faked Katyn evidence come up with
the "holocaust", gaschambers and all?

As to the a-bomb, we have a written and radio-broadcast presidential order, a clear
chain of command, bombers in the pacific, the massdestruction device itself, 16mm Technicolor stereo movies of the event,
500K bodys, hundreds of doctors and forensics experts, radiation you can measure even today...

compare that to what we have of that ten times greater massdestruction event called the
"holocaust", sergey. just circumstantial bullshit from lying massmurderers playing "impartial"
CSI personnell :-)

Sergey Romanov said...

"Kaganowitsch"

That's Kaganovich

"Oh c'mon Sergey, i read the Nuremberg Transcripts and
there your NKVD "Investigators" lay it all down in fake documents: the Nazis murdered all those
polish Soldiers in Katyn in 1941. "

So how do you know they're fake? Did you simply swallow the circumstantial evidence produced by the Nazi mass-murderers?

"So why cant u understand my skepticizm when the *same* Investigators that just faked Katyn evidence come up with the "holocaust", gaschambers and all?"

Why not skepticism about Katyn also?

"As to the a-bomb, we have a written and radio-broadcast presidential order, a clear
chain of command, bombers in the pacific, the massdestruction device itself, 16mm Technicolor stereo movies of the event,
500K bodys, hundreds of doctors and forensics experts, radiation you can measure even today..."

Really? How do you know it's not forged?

And do you deny all history which was not filmed in 16mm Technicolor?

"compare that to what we have of that ten times greater massdestruction event called the
"holocaust", sergey. just circumstantial bullshit from lying massmurderers playing "impartial"
CSI personnell :-)"

No more circumstancial than the evidence you've adduced above. Thousands of witnesses and documents, and mounds of physical evidence in the form of mass graves (despite an attempt at their destruction).