Monday, March 27, 2006

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Here are responses of "revisionists" to the arson attack on the Holocaust History Project office:
Official CODOH forum
Why would Revisionists want them silenced? Are they kidding? Their material is a blessing to Revisionists efforts. Their laughable 'documents' and the irrational material on their website have been utterly demolished by Revisionists, each and every one.
"a pair of military uniforms worn by a judge at the Dachau trials". What's up with that? Do these clowns run around in WWII uniforms?
There has been quite a lot of cases during the last years of "hate crimes" being perpetrated by the "victims", and I wouldn't put it past Mazal et.al in this case. I mean, their "evidence" and "refutations" are mainly made out of thin air, so they could easily replace the old ones.
Two thousand (2,000) books? I would imagine many of them would be Holocaust books. Holocaust books in the future will be the testament to the scope of the fraud. As things start to spiral downwards for the Holocaust community they will be making a effort to burn their own books. You know, attempts at erasing the record. Who knows, maybe the process is already in motion. They could even have mass burnings and then try to capitalize on it.
What if it was a group of Jewish lesbians imitating the hate crime at Claremont college in California.
Denier at RODOH
The truth is that the arsonists are Mazal, Keren et al.
This is their surrender. They found out that there is no prove for the h-cheese.
Another denier at RODOH
Jews' are famous for arson.
:)

16 comments:

Scott Smith said...

I don't see why Revisionists would have anything to gain by the arson of Mazal's library. He is putting lots of stuff online which is a goldmine, such as Pressac.

Some Believers are calling the arson a Hatecrime, though, which is a bit irresponsible since the police are not convinced of that.

Sergey Romanov said...

"I don't see why Revisionists would have anything to gain by the arson of Mazal's library."

1) This assumes that deniers usually act reasonably.

2) Hate crimes are not done to "gain" anything.

Scott Smith said...

Well, the police are not convinced that it was a Hatecrime, but some are convinced that it makes sense to profit from that accusation.

Nick Terry said...

Lawyers are not convinced that deniers are jailed for historical revisionism, but some are convinced that it makes sense to profit from that accusation. ;-)

Sergey Romanov said...

> Well, the police are not convinced that it was a Hatecrime

And who cares?

Scott Smith said...

Sergey said:

<< And who cares? >>

Well, the arson aspersion is a propaganda lie because Mazal and Salzman are accusing Revisionists.

So far, the police say that the arson was not a hatecrime.

It is irresponsible to suggest otherwise.

Nick said:

<< Lawyers are not convinced that deniers are jailed for historical revisionism, but some are convinced that it makes sense to profit from that accusation. >>

Lawyers are basically prostitutes so their philosophies are partisan and suspect.

The Revisionists are being jailed for Thoughtcrime and it is extremely disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

Sergey Romanov said...

> Well, the arson aspersion is a propaganda lie because Mazal and Salzman are accusing Revisionists.

This is the only reasonable inference. If the police does not think so, it's their problem.

> So far, the police say that the arson was not a hatecrime.

What basis do they have to say that?

> It is irresponsible to suggest otherwise.


It is irresponsible to suggest that it was not a hate crime.

Scott Smith said...

The police would only be too happy to say that it was a Hatecrime. They live for 9/11 style crime-busting and media sensationalism.

And this is reflected in government budgets too. Public libraries, on the other hand, are at the VERY bottom of the funding food chain. A cop with a (2 year) Associates degree draws the same salary as a librarian with a (6 year) Master's degree too, btw.

Anyway, the police are not all corrupt. They just failed in this case to see how the arson targetted Mazal's Holoshrine in particular. Just read all the articles about it.

So first there has to be proof that it was a Hatecrime, and second, that Revisionists were responsible.

Anybody who suggests otherwise is trying to milk this vandalism for all the propaganda value that it is worth.

And therefore, given these base aspersions, who can blame those who (unfairly, and just as sordidly, IMHO) draw parallels with Jewish "activists" who paint swastikas on synagogues or Jewish graves in order to garner sympathy from Gentiles and to collect contributions from outraged Jews? Zionism has always milked the specter of anti-Semitism.

As Mr. Mazal says, the police and the FBI are investigating the arson. I hope they catch the culprits. In the meantime, don't anybody try to profit from it.

Sergey Romanov said...

> So first there has to be proof that it was a Hatecrime, and second, that Revisionists were responsible.

There is no alternative explanation. You certainly failed to present one.

Roman Werpachowski said...

Sergey: theoretically speaking, there could be. I've heard stories about mentally ill people setting buildings on fire without regard for who owns them or what purpose they serve. But of course, the first suspects are those who dislike what the Mazal library is doing.

Scott: cops earn more because their job is more dangerous.

Scott Smith said...

Scott said:

<< So first there has to be proof that it was a Hatecrime, and second, that Revisionists were responsible.

Sergey said:

<< There is no alternative explanation. You certainly failed to present one. >>

It's called vandalism. I've never really understood it, myself.

Roman said:

<< Scott: cops earn more because their job is more dangerous. >>

Not that much more dangerous. In reality, cops have more bargaining power and their appurtenances are high-profile politically.

Thus, their organizations lobby city councils, legislatures and Congress for funding to fight terrorism or to fight drugs or to fight gangs. What do they base this hue-and-cry on? Maybe an alarming news report or a press conference featuring some graffiti spray-painted on buildings, or a former general waving a bottle of pepper before the United Nations General Assembly.

The police-prison industry is no less of a vested interest domestically than is the military-industrial-complex and the global arms trade internationally.

I am not saying that American gendarmes are as corrupt as the fire brigades of Rome--who, unless protection money was paid, set fires instead of putting them out in order to make way for the palaces of the rich by clearing out the urban housing slums--but with the present War on Terrah the potential is there.

Roman Werpachowski said...

Scott, so according to you policeman's work is not much more dangerous than librarian's work. OK. This says volumes about the way you perceive reality ;-) Now I begin to see the answer to the question I've been asking myself "where do the people who deny Holocaust took place come from?". They come from the same gene pool which makes people believe that there is no crime and police is not a necessary institution.

Scott Smith said...

Roman said:

<< Scott, so according to you policeman's work is not much more dangerous than librarian's work. >>

Sure, police work is more dangerous, but that is irrelevant to the pay scale, otherwise soldiers and liquor store clerks would be getting paid handsomely. What else are they going to do, flip burgers?

<< They come from the same gene pool which makes people believe that there is no crime and police is not a necessary institution. >>

I never said that there is no crime, nor that the police force is not a necessary institution--just that the prison-industrial-complex and "law enforcement" should not be writing their own ticket at the public trough. That they are at the top of the food chain is an understatement.

Sergey Romanov said...

> It's called vandalism. I've never really understood it, myself.

Yes, vandalism. But vandal(s) chose one specific place for their act. It would be silly to argue that such acts are representative of deniers, but it is equally silly to deny that it was done by a person not opposed to anti-denial, i.e. a denier.

Anonymous said...

> So first there has to be proof that it was a Hatecrime, and second, that Revisionists were responsible.

There is no alternative explanation. You certainly failed to present one.



The obvious alternative explanation (which may or may not be what actually occurred in this case) is that it was done by Holocaust believers. Fake hate crimes, particularly acts of vandalism, are conducted by the alleged "victims" all the time - do a Google search, there are many such examples. They are done to vilify one's opponents and elicit sympathy from the public.

Sergey Romanov said...

"The obvious alternative explanation (which may or may not be what actually occurred in this case) is that it was done by Holocaust believers."

We're talking about credible explanations, moonbat.