tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post3663783790489010850..comments2024-03-20T07:25:58.202+00:00Comments on Holocaust Controversies: Dumb Neo-Nazi Carolyn Yeager Attacks an Auschwitz Survivor, Beclowns Self.Nicholas Terryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comBlogger102125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-84559758557751932812024-02-19T20:02:31.952+00:002024-02-19T20:02:31.952+00:002024 update: in addition to being grotesque, C. Ye...2024 update: in addition to being grotesque, C. Yeager appears to be the same quitter on her own that she's been elsewhere. Her website (no link will be provided) just had a post where she said she was giving up her Nazi advocacy, at least in terms of posting bullshit on her pathetic site. My only note is that she says she's "retiring" after 16 full years of online pro-Naziing, and she has had 23 commenters show up to wish her well. That amounts to slightly more than 1 person per annum who gives a damn that she's hanging up her black-and-red shoes. She's pathetic.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01583024997893127761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-89602761375222326102021-12-14T01:37:03.973+00:002021-12-14T01:37:03.973+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01583024997893127761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-22851654693501031652016-07-30T17:53:36.298+01:002016-07-30T17:53:36.298+01:00> Everything is awesome.
If you wish.> Everything is awesome.<br /><br />If you wish.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-23525793025846940152016-07-30T17:39:02.317+01:002016-07-30T17:39:02.317+01:00Well, that's kind of thep point. I did not und...Well, that's kind of thep point. I did not understand why someone who I THOUGHT was you was cheerfully schmoozing with a Nazi-apologist while pushing one antisemitic canard after another. Now I understand that it JUST WASN'T YOU. Problem solved. Everything is awesome.Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-931592722366831282016-07-30T16:51:41.782+01:002016-07-30T16:51:41.782+01:00So you think it's about the writing "styl...So you think it's about the writing "style" and not about the fact that you thought I was cheerfully schmoozing with a Nazi-apologist while pushing one antisemitic canard after another? Neat.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-29829774772952255362016-07-30T14:20:30.394+01:002016-07-30T14:20:30.394+01:00> It was written by a Serge Romanov, just not b...> It was written by a Serge Romanov, just not by this one. Very obviously so, I might add, so it wouldn't really "appear" as "written by Sergey" to anyone who has actually bothered to read the crap that other SR wrote at Irving's site and apply a modicum of common sense.<br /><br />Sergey, I hope you realize that it's not as easy for me the recognize your writing style like other people who know you for years.Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-69331763036269504082016-07-30T13:38:14.467+01:002016-07-30T13:38:14.467+01:00BTW here is the entirety of *my* interactions with...BTW here is the entirety of *my* interactions with Irving:<br /><br />http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/controversies/deathroll/340_000_plaque.html<br /><br />Dear Mr. Idiot, [writes Sergey Romanov on Monday, March 7, 2005] as has been explained to you (and as the plaque itself clearly states), this number signifies only those registered in the camp; same with the Krakau trial. I don't see how one can be so freakin' dumb. The alternative is that you're consciously and purposefully lying.<br /><br />IrvingDavid Irving comments:<br /><br />ROBUST language indeed. I am aware of that theory. But why commemorate only the "few" who were registered, and not the "many" who were not? Seems illogical, doesn't it?<br /><br />----------------------------------<br /><br />http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/Irving/RadDi/2012/020112.html<br /><br />Sergey Romanov sends me a lengthy conformist paper on the Reinhardt camps [download pdf, 5.6MB]. It is drafted by a new team, "Holocaust Controversies." This turns out to consist of Dr. Nicholas Terry, Roberto Muehlenkamp, Jonathan Harrison, Sergey Romanov and Jason Myers.<br /><br />"Dr. Nicholas Terry is a lecturer at Exeter U, so it's not quite anonymous," Romanov protests, adding sarcastically: "Of course, Mr. Irving, you've never had a problem with anonymous publications when it suited you (see: 'Samuel Crowell')."<br /><br />("Crowell" is a writer and researcher in the revisionist camp, who has asked to remain pseudonymous.)<br /><br />I reply civilly: "Your paper looks very interesting, but a bit long. I will of course read it, but later. You may appreciate why some of the revisionist historians with professional positions needed to conceal their real names; but I was aware of them [their real names] as I am no threat to them."Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-79147384586520522362016-07-30T13:32:16.374+01:002016-07-30T13:32:16.374+01:00> I came across this "article" that s...> I came across this "article" that seems to have been written by Sergey 12 years ago.<br /><br />It was written by a Serge Romanov, just not by this one. Very obviously so, I might add, so it wouldn't really "appear" as "written by Sergey" to anyone who has actually bothered to read the crap that other SR wrote at Irving's site and apply a modicum of common sense.<br /><br />(PS: That guy used to live in Moscow then moved to the US and is (or was) a somewhat well-known douche blogger. His blog is full of CTs like Trutherism and whatnot, and of course antisemitism.<br /><br />http://emdrone.livejournal.com/<br />http://zvezda.ru/authors/220.htm<br />)Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-18995714652758656572016-07-27T08:59:55.410+01:002016-07-27T08:59:55.410+01:00I wasn't reffereing to the Korherr report but ...I wasn't reffereing to the Korherr report but to a general issue. It's really sad and frustrating it is to first discover reports agaisnt Holocaust deniers, but than find out that this guys have refutations to those reports? Such as, like I mentioned, their bashing of Daniel Keren which I must admit I'm afraid to read.<br /><br />https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4405<br />https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4404Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-26918986287524532682016-07-26T21:21:56.682+01:002016-07-26T21:21:56.682+01:00Gabi: "I googled "Korherr report", ...Gabi: "I googled "Korherr report", appearantly Carlyn Yeager have tried to debunk it as well (or at least some parts). That's my main problem with this entire war between deniers and anti-deniers: finding debnks of denier claims is easy. But than deniers try to debunk the debunks (the guys on the codoh forums love to bash Daniel Keren for example). What is really hard to find is a debunk-of-the-debunk-of-the-debunk."<br /><br />Yeager merely highlighted the contentious parts of the report in blue, so there's nothing to debunk. <br /><br />Roberto dealt in-depth with the possible interpretations of the Korherr report's crucial wordings in a blog post here: http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2007/04/richard-i-didnt-know-korherr.html<br />I don't see where this has been responded to on a semi-serious denier platform in a coherent article length format. It's tagged, and was listed first on a straight search of the blog if you find (as I just did) that the tags mean too much slogging back through older posts.<br />Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-63545108924165595872016-07-26T14:28:54.328+01:002016-07-26T14:28:54.328+01:00I googled "Korherr report", appearantly ...I googled "Korherr report", appearantly Carlyn Yeager have tried to debunk it as well (or at least some parts). That's my main problem with this entire war between deniers and anti-deniers: finding debnks of denier claims is easy. But than deniers try to debunk the debunks (the guys on the codoh forums love to bash Daniel Keren for example). What is really hard to find is a debunk-of-the-debunk-of-the-debunk.Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-30417213750831805282016-07-26T11:40:38.668+01:002016-07-26T11:40:38.668+01:00Gabi: "Just one final reqest (I promise!) - &...Gabi: "Just one final reqest (I promise!) - "We have quite a lot of very good detailed statistics from cities and towns" - again, a link to a pool of those records will be nice. I'n just trying to build an arsenal of anti-deneir links for any future arguments."<br /><br />Google Korherr report, which presents country and region level statistics for 1942. The main deniers like Mattogno don't deny the figures in this report, they just try to dispute the documented rewriting of the wording and/or fuss over the meaning of special treatment (Sonderbehandlung).<br /><br />There isn't a convenient resource breaking things down across the whole of Europe with sources; for western/central Europe you can find all kinds of websites listing deportations from Theresienstadt, Drancy etc, and these have name lists. <br /><br />A good resource is the Bundesarchiv Memorial Book, which has a deportation chronology for central Europe and western Europe, which adds up to ca. 450,000.<br />https://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/chronicles.html.en<br />The database itself only covers German Jews, however.<br /><br />For Hungary an excellent summary page, explaining the complexities, is here<br />http://www.zchor.org/hungaria<br /><br />The key point is that 25% of the deportees were selected, not all were registered in Auschwitz, as Sergey noted in this blog post. The unregistered, untattooed deportees were transferred to other concentration camps, and then show up to a very great extent in their records. The 75% who were not selected for work don't show up anywhere, and at the time of the Hungarian action there wasn't much of an 'east' to 'resettle' them to. Deniers have no answer to that question whatsoever, and Butz was stupid enough to try to deny that 430,000 were even deported, something Mattogno and others had to reject eventually for being too dumb even for deniers.<br />http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/number-of-hungarian-jews-gassed-in.html<br />http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2006/08/missing-hungarian-jews-revisionist.html<br /><br />It's easy to find large numbers of testimonies from Hungarian Jews at degob.hu (some in English translation), at Yad Vashem in their documents archive under O.33 (don't forget the dot when putting this into the record group advanced search box), and other places - survivors who are not the famous few that deniers harp on about. <br /><br />For Poland there is a useful page on Lodz <br />http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/statistics.htm<br />It's worth knowing that there are name lists for the Lodz ghetto deportations; these are online at http://www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/39/278/0/7#tabZespol, the Statistische Abteilung is how it sounds. Should you wish to wave further evidence under anyone's nose.<br /><br />while for the Government-General, there's the Hoefle telegram breaking down deportations to Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka and also Majdanek (a smaller number for that one, they were registered for work not all gassed on arrival)<br /><br />There are various websites regarding the Warsaw ghetto, eg this one<br />http://warszawa.getto.pl/index.php?show=kalendarium&lang=en<br /><br />You can also search the Skeptics Society Forum and RODOH for posts by Statistical Mechanic regarding Warsaw and other places, he is good at summarising the literature.<br /><br />Long experience of watching deniers react to StatMech suggests that keeping things concrete, focusing on specific cities like Lodz and Warsaw or countries like Hungary, is better than trying to discuss the Holocaust or deportations as a whole. They really don't like it when you ask them for the whereabouts of the documented deportees, and would much rather argue over cremation mechanics at Treblinka or Chelmno than provide a genuine answer. You can do the same thing with Hungary - yes, they like debating the air photos and arguing about crematoria, but they have never explained what happened to the missing three-quarters of the victims. Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-34735186067266096832016-07-26T08:06:05.850+01:002016-07-26T08:06:05.850+01:00Just one final reqest (I promise!) - "We have...Just one final reqest (I promise!) - "We have quite a lot of very good detailed statistics from cities and towns" - again, a link to a pool of those records will be nice. I'n just trying to build an arsenal of anti-deneir links for any future arguments.Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-39330289265400811682016-07-25T21:51:32.947+01:002016-07-25T21:51:32.947+01:00Once again you are extremley helpful. This blog is...Once again you are extremley helpful. This blog is a godsent, seriously. Keep up the good work Nick!Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-59985796513891546682016-07-25T21:16:19.186+01:002016-07-25T21:16:19.186+01:00"The anti-YV article I was reffering to is ba..."The anti-YV article I was reffering to is barely related to the Aroslen files, and it is relaitvely new, from 2013. <br />https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=9366"<br /><br />the Arolsen blog post discussed the YV names database.<br />http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2006/05/arolsen-aaargh-all-those-names.html<br /><br />That was 10 years ago, and YV have clearly been doing a lot of work since, but at this stage the inputting of data is really not very coordinated so there are more and more multiple-entries, people who survived, and so on. Thus the headline figures are not very meaningful and won't be for 50-100 years. No historian would rely on the database for statistics or try to use the database to work anything out. <br /><br />Point being, we have quite a lot of very good, detailed statistics for cities and towns from which we have far fewer names, like Warsaw. Multiple documents show 250,000 Jews were deported from Warsaw to Treblinka in the summer of 1942, no name lists were taken by the Nazis or could be preserved by the Judenrat there. There are quite a few survivors from Warsaw who likely sent in pages of testimony but I would seriously doubt if more than a fraction of the victims are known by name. <br /><br />Deniers dispute that they were killed in Treblinka but don't apparently dispute that 250,000 were deported, despite not having names for them. They have no names for any survivors not already accounted for by conventional understanding (eg the names of escapees from Treblinka, and train-jumpers who escaped before reaching the camp who lived to testify after the war)<br /><br />So the whole gambit and entire subject is rather pointless, unless the deniers are trying to jeer at Jews for seeing entire family trees extinguished and having their community records destroyed so that nobody can reconstruct everything down to the last detail. But that's what one would *expect* in a genocide that aimed to wipe a people off the face of the earth and erase their memory, therefore the 'why haven't you got all the names?' line is actually self-defeating.<br /><br />"Also:<br />"They have clearly entered in all the names from the Dutch and German memorial books, which were researched by the governments in question".<br />I believe you, however I'll be more than happy for any links that verify this."<br /><br />See the FAQ, 'where did the names come from?'<br />http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/resources/names/faq.asp<br /><br />and their list of partners<br />http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/resources/names/partners.asp<br /><br />These partners include the organisations that put out memorial books of names, e.g. NIOD did the Dutch registry of names for the whole country decades ago, on behalf of the Dutch government, as well as the German Memorial Book (which is online - google Bundesarchiv Gedenkbuch, an English version is then available).<br />Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-69552245404499788072016-07-25T20:11:04.735+01:002016-07-25T20:11:04.735+01:00Also:
"They have clearly entered in all the n...Also:<br />"They have clearly entered in all the names from the Dutch and German memorial books, which were researched by the governments in question".<br />I believe you, however I'll be more than happy for any links that verify this.Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-76831442304247619172016-07-25T20:04:48.679+01:002016-07-25T20:04:48.679+01:00The anti-YV article I was reffering to is barely r...The anti-YV article I was reffering to is barely related to the Aroslen files, and it is relaitvely new, from 2013. <br />https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=9366Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-43534079539825681202016-07-25T19:21:51.029+01:002016-07-25T19:21:51.029+01:00Gabi: "I've seen attempts to dissmis YV&#...Gabi: "I've seen attempts to dissmis YV's list on codoh, pretty dure it was written bt Mattogno. No point bothering reading into this, right?"<br /><br />I blogged about this back in 2006 - search tags for Arolsen. The YV database FAQs and explanatory pages cover the key points anyway. <br /><br />It's one of a dozen or so idiotic numbers game gambits, the best advice is to look up Matthew White's 20th Century Hemoclysm web-page (Hemoclysm is easily googled as it's his neologism), and digest the fact that megadeaths are extremely hard to quantify with any precision, and the estimate ranges for other megadeaths are wider and less well founded than for the Holocaust. Nor does one find examples of pristinely counted or 'verified' cases of mass violence unless they are well below six figures. And yet there are still Srebrenica deniers out there - some lunatic 'anti-imperialists' as well as a few diehard Serbian nationalists, despite that being an atrocity committed in the age of DNA.<br /><br />Reading up on other mass atrocities and genocides (even if only browsing around) is generally a good idea - you swiftly realise how most denier claims regarding the Holocaust are simply special pleading, since some are even worse sourced than the Holocaust (fewer perpetrator sources), memoirs and testimonies tend to have pride of place (for example Solzhenitsyn and the Gulag), little to no archaeology or forensics gets done on the older ones in the first half of the 20th Century, and there usually turn out to be nationalists who want to deny or minimise the crimes, or other ideologues who want to exaggerate them (eg Dresden).Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-25191539967719815202016-07-25T18:29:37.736+01:002016-07-25T18:29:37.736+01:00I've seen attempts to dissmis YV's list on...I've seen attempts to dissmis YV's list on codoh, pretty dure it was written bt Mattogno. No point bothering reading into this, right?Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-77204363534193630142016-07-25T17:47:56.731+01:002016-07-25T17:47:56.731+01:00That doesn't read like Sergey at all, and inde...That doesn't read like Sergey at all, and indeed the writer named himself "Serge" Romanov, quite possibly hijacking Sergey's name because he was already active as an anti-denier in 2004. <br /><br />The key to figuring out identities, alter egos and sockpuppets is to pay close attention to the Writing style. The "Serge" Romanov writes English with native verbosity - normally one would say native fluency, but the letter-writer's style is quite heavy, with long paragraphs, a bit wordy here and there, and it doesn't read like it was written by a native Russian speaker writing in their 2nd language. <br /><br />Yad Vashem is a website, a museum, a library, an archive, a sources-gathering agency, a digitisation project, a place to deposit family records, a gatherer of oral histories, a preserver of names in the database, a publisher of books, a publisher of a journal, and an academic research centre. USHMM has all of these functions as well, one way or another (they maintain a survivors' registry for the US rather than a victims' names database, is one difference). <br /><br />So it's a bit difficult to regard either of them as a singular 'source' when they aggregate many different sources. <br /><br />This also applies to the YV names database - they have clearly entered in all the names from the Dutch and German memorial books, which were researched by the governments in question; they seem to have added in name lists from other official sources from other countries that are not as thorough as the Dutch and German memorial books; and they accept pages of testimony from relatives which necessarily means the names database can never be complete, since there were many families in especially Poland and the USSR who were wiped out entirely with no relatives surviving to remember them at all, while the Nazis stole and destroyed Jewish records of births, deaths and marriages from many East European regions (but not all).<br /><br />Both present encyclopedia like web pages with basic information for the public - these are generally OK, but such pages are not "sources" any more than Wikipedia is really a source. The Yad Vashem lexicon entries seem to be derived from the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust originally published in about 1990, so there are some occasional facts that are a bit out of date, e.g. they overestimate the number killed at Chelmno by relying on older guesstimates. That's about the only criticism I have of the website - they are adding to it all the time and uploading masses of sources and resources (which is great), but a few older parts could do with revision and correction. Which is more or less inevitable, I think.Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-57731229147525550302016-07-25T10:16:35.448+01:002016-07-25T10:16:35.448+01:00Another thing.
I came across this "article&qu...Another thing.<br />I came across this "article" that seems to have been written by Sergey 12 years ago.<br />http://fpp.co.uk/Letters/Auschwitz/Romanov_131204.html<br />Maybe I undestood something wrong here, but it seems to me as though this article is attempting to discredit Yad VaShem's victims names archive. What's up with that? I know that even some anti-deniers are not big fans of Yad Vashem, but this blog has a link to "Yad Vashem Resource Center" in the side banner. So... did I just understand this article in a wrong way? Or do you guys actually think that Yad Vashem is not a reliable source about the Holocaust?Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-82151656302052109302016-07-21T07:33:32.710+01:002016-07-21T07:33:32.710+01:00It's intresting for you mention MGTOW. I, pers...It's intresting for you mention MGTOW. I, personally, have disocovered this entire anti-semetism and holcoaust denial wave when I was hanging around in areas of the internet that were devoted to anti-feminism (or "anti Social Justice Warriors"), a view that I persoanlly mostly agree with. When I found out that so many people in the community that I got along pretty well with would start cursing and spitting on me if they knew I was Jewish, I got pretty shocked. There's something really hypocritical about being anti-feminist and an antisemite denier at the same time: they (rightfully) think it's ridicoulous when feminists believe that there's some great worldwide conspiracy against them, known as the "the patriarchy", but then they go around spewing crap about how there's a Jewish shadow goverment the controlls the universe, straight outta "The Protocols".Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-20668369507071825192016-07-20T23:20:00.960+01:002016-07-20T23:20:00.960+01:00Gabi,
I don't think deniers are doing anythin...Gabi,<br /><br />I don't think deniers are doing anything that different to 9/11 Truthers, conspiracy theorists, Ron Paul supporters in 2008 and 2012, Gamergaters, MGTOW/PUA misogynists, alt-right trolls, etc. Social media seems to invite this kind of loudmouth obnoxiousness, even though it tends to turn off lurkers and ends up reducing the credibility of the ideas being marketed. Because one group sees another making a lot of noise and getting attention, another group copies the tactics. Moreover, as many of these groups overlap, then they are also competing for market share and attention from other fucktards, while also trolling their opponents. <br /><br />There also seems to be a general trend for women and ethnic minorities including Jews to receive an above-average level of abuse and trolling, or to attract more negative comments - the Guardian tested this recently by quantifying data on comment posts removed for violating their community guidelines, and found that the ten writers provoking the most moderation were nearly all not white males.<br /><br />Then there's the political context: Trump's campaign in particular has emboldened bigots in the US to spew anti-black racism, Islamophobia and threats of violence against a female candidate for the Presidency, and enticed a horde of white nationalists and antisemites to join in. <br /><br />On discussion forums, deniers tend to be middle-aged or older; quite a few denier etc YouTube video-makers also belong to this generation (eg Jim Rizoli, born in 1958). By and large, the full-blooded embrace of crankery and douchebaggery tends to occur in males in their 40s or 50s, and many vocal deniers who have popped up in the past 10 years on the internet somewhere confirm this pattern (eg been-there at RODOH, going on his own self-description), just as one can find similar examples among the CT crowd, aficionados of pseudohistory/'Ancient Aliens', etc. The 9/11 Truth Movement was conspicuously split between younger activists who burned out rapidly, and an older crowd who were already into conspiracy theories and jumped on the bandwagon. <br /><br />Younger trolls are going to be attracted to a wider but shallower range of ideas, maybe buying into this or that package, or trying on things for the lulz before moving onto something else. Dumbed-down Holocaust denial can be spouted without much thinking, but this won't translate into long-term growth for revisionism, which would require a lot more work - actually studying history, learning languages and so on. Far easier to become a flat-earther, which is maybe why there has been a glut of books advocating flat-earthism in the past two years; it's the perfect creed for trolls in the 21st century.Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-31513952854262186722016-07-20T13:36:19.248+01:002016-07-20T13:36:19.248+01:00And another question, it it's still okay - thi...And another question, it it's still okay - this time note about debunking some denier claim, but a more philosophical question: One thing deniers absolutly love to do is to present themselves as a silent majority whose on the brink of beating the "Jewish conspiracy" (for example: "gettin sweaty now huh? The past kreeping up on you from behind ,faster and faster. And it worries you . Soon everybody will tell the story about the big lie.")<br /><br />Now, obviously they're lying. They try to prtend they are something bigger than just an angry inority, circlejerking around white supremacist forums where they use the same arguements since 1996 and mostly spand their time convincing those who are convinced.<br /><br />My question is: in you opinion (one of you being a doctor whos an expert on holocaust denial) - How come this small group of haters is so VOCAL? It is impossible these days to watch a youtube video that has even the slightest relation to Jews, Israel or the Holocaust without deniers bombradign the comment section with "holohoax" calls, racist memes like "oy vey goyim" and the "happy merchant", and off course copy-and pasting old as hell arguments such as the Auschwitz plaque and stuff like that. Nulike old times, you don't need to get to the bottom of comment sections or to some dark corners of the internet to finding holocaust deniers, today they pop out massively onf the biggest online stages, at the top of comment sections and on some very popular twitter accounts. How come such a tiny minority is so loud? My theory is simply that "shite floats", but maybe there's something more behind it. <br /><br />What do you think?Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-36361344031095233922016-07-17T08:33:53.991+01:002016-07-17T08:33:53.991+01:00Thanks again. I wish I had the same amount of conf...Thanks again. I wish I had the same amount of confidence like you guys have. But I guess It comes with age (and with academic degrees. At least in your case)Gabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07712750358743399545noreply@blogger.com