tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post8067799107271948985..comments2024-03-20T07:25:58.202+00:00Comments on Holocaust Controversies: Debunking the YouTube denial.Nicholas Terryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-17812334063515031262022-03-24T02:27:35.412+00:002022-03-24T02:27:35.412+00:00Sergey, you must make a youtube channel. It would ...Sergey, you must make a youtube channel. It would bring more attention to these lying holocaust deniers and further help both this website and general knowledge. There is something really infuriating seeing these people just straight up lie to their audience and get away with it, don't let them continue this BS!Gameringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09181206366500168400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-29341373640495976912022-03-23T16:06:57.156+00:002022-03-23T16:06:57.156+00:00Lavoro notevole. Bisognerebbe dare piu´ visibilita...Lavoro notevole. Bisognerebbe dare piu´ visibilita´a siti come questi, purtroppo c´e´ gente molto ignorante tra di noi..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08290511986484087967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-16838198002999780082021-07-08T13:10:30.580+01:002021-07-08T13:10:30.580+01:00Just FYI "proven at nuremberg" was made ...Just FYI "proven at nuremberg" was made by Ryan Faulk, aka Alt Hype. Ben Doverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16264180200686767398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-88206911799521666782020-08-23T11:02:20.915+01:002020-08-23T11:02:20.915+01:00FSF nailed it. You need to do something else. This...FSF nailed it. You need to do something else. This was horrible.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02977006082661977778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-26300279797782240772020-05-24T22:21:06.854+01:002020-05-24T22:21:06.854+01:00It seemed like he was accepting the existence of M...It seemed like he was accepting the existence of Mobile Gas Chambers to me. I like Ryan, but he should read up more on this stuff. What he's into is Race Realism, but maybe he'll get back onto this again.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11798452942690174720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-58156329870016319932020-04-30T12:58:49.049+01:002020-04-30T12:58:49.049+01:00"Do you have a place where you have written d..."Do you have a place where you have written down exactly what you have studied had happened and all the facts and figures relating to it?"<br /><br />Yes, it's called this blog. <br /><br />See the quick links on the top left and right for some examples, eg the 2011 white paper on Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka; documents and evidence on gas vans, and the index of evidence re Auschwitz.Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-14352256055986038322020-04-29T16:13:52.405+01:002020-04-29T16:13:52.405+01:00Do you have a place where you have written down ex...Do you have a place where you have written down exactly what you have studied had happened and all the facts and figures relating to it? I've only ever read very abstract things relating to the holocaust. <br /><br />Said differently, I want to read your holocaust with your proof accompanying it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07368868271701756304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-51015033576004016032020-04-29T14:13:18.415+01:002020-04-29T14:13:18.415+01:00Banned on Twitter; I've already tackled Peinov...Banned on Twitter; I've already tackled Peinovich in a recent article.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-67606261728761911402020-04-29T08:21:33.372+01:002020-04-29T08:21:33.372+01:00I honestly don't get the point about the IMT a...I honestly don't get the point about the IMT allegedly using "Bad Evidence".<br /><br />It's a court's job to review all the evidence presented and sift the wheat from the chaff. And it's the defense and Prosecution's job to do EVERYTHING they can to prove their case.<br /><br />Complaining about IMT because "soap" or "lampshades" got reviewed is like claiming that OJ Simpson was convicted of killing Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. So what if the LA court actually acquitted him? The prosecution provided evidence that he did it, so they must have found him guilty. Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660486969581542489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-44521020895167147062020-04-28T21:35:36.819+01:002020-04-28T21:35:36.819+01:00I was going to ask if you were on twitter, and I w...I was going to ask if you were on twitter, and I was also going to suggest you debunk mike enochs frequent denials as he's one of the biggest deniers online, blocks anyone competent who refutes him, and would probably get you much exposure Mike Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13835800362592249696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-1262975698347176582020-04-28T18:49:45.861+01:002020-04-28T18:49:45.861+01:00I won't change the article since it has been r...I won't change the article since it has been responded to, and it should be clear from the context that I'm talking about efficiency towards a particular goal. Moreover, with pyres the huge part of the fuel is wood (procured locally), so in the end you end up with less of "your own" fuel that you have to actually transport and waste.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-24721338477605868632020-04-28T17:45:00.415+01:002020-04-28T17:45:00.415+01:00This is a minor, pedantic point, but in the articl...This is a minor, pedantic point, but in the article around discussing the 21:30 talking point, you say, and I quote<br /><br />" The bodies were incinerated on pyres (a more efficient method than mobile crematoria, where you would have just one muffle - you would have to have a whole fleet of those with you to make a noticeable dent), the brittle bones were crushed by the Jews themselves."<br /><br />Given the rather foolish mania for deniers to talk about fuel efficiency, and how open air pyres are not particularly fuel efficient compared to even a mobile crematorium, I might suggest you edit it to something like "A more time efficient method", to avoid potential de-railing by deniers who won't want to deal with the main point.Beezertheturniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17377341362242521093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-35479432680694952022020-04-28T17:00:53.698+01:002020-04-28T17:00:53.698+01:00Saving for posterity this copy of pond life discus...Saving for posterity this copy of pond life discussing the rebuttal to the Faulk video and getting everything wrong:<br /><br />http://archive.is/DAFk6<br /><br />Neo-Nazi brainlets can't read LOL (writing "Jewish soap is a myth" = you believe in Jewish soap in their world). But even more tragically, many of them don't even get Faulk's sarcasm.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-37282649128699113472020-04-28T16:51:05.534+01:002020-04-28T16:51:05.534+01:00I'm very glad you have no objections to the fo...I'm very glad you have no objections to the following facts: he denied the existence of the mobile crematoria, I pointed out that he denied it (so there was no mischaracterization), then he denied his denial.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-6498055560372058982020-04-28T12:50:11.550+01:002020-04-28T12:50:11.550+01:00"I didn't mischaracterize it"
Welp, ..."I didn't mischaracterize it"<br />Welp, that's all I needed to hear.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05984993889485579481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-10965607273102347822020-04-28T08:10:45.178+01:002020-04-28T08:10:45.178+01:00Yes, the infamous Dresden bombing, with the claime...Yes, the infamous Dresden bombing, with the claimed 1,000,000 victims, the fake TB 47 document, the melting bodies (bodies are not made of ice, they don't melt!) and turning into puddles of melted flesh, bodies turning into jelly, bodies shriveling in a second to the size of a child (because skeletons work like that!), bodies glowing bright orange and blue and then either disintegrating into ciders or melting into a thick liquid, often three or four feet deep in spots, bodies burned on impossible pyres and vanishing without a trace (no physical evidence!), the alleged bombing allegedly committed without any military purpose (would the Allies have done that in wartime?!). But was there any bombing at all? I have been to Dresden and it was fine. I haven't seen any signs of the bombing. No physical evidence. We need the Truth!Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-73648637664807737812020-04-28T06:46:09.328+01:002020-04-28T06:46:09.328+01:00> Look, I get that you're really, REALLY in...> Look, I get that you're really, REALLY into the subject, but trying to mischaractarize a point does not lend to your argument, it diminishes it.<br /><br />Note sure why you would lie about me trying to mischarachterize a point whereas I have mischaracterized none. He got caught lying, red-handed. He explicitly (within the inversion framework) denies the existence of the mobile crematoria as such. I have shown this with numerous quotes, of which you have addressed only one.<br /><br />> The keyword there would be units, i.e, SS units trawling around the Russian front disposing of the evidence.<br /><br />Not sure why you are trying to lie right now, even though I have already pointed out in my second response:<br /><br />"No such claim has been made anywhere; the Waldmann testimony is specifically about Sachsenhausen, and the Janowska camp claim is specifically about that camp, not about Einsatzgruppen killings. No claim of mobile crematoria for the Einsatzgruppen victims is known."<br /><br />(And you might object you haven't read my response yet, but the primary source - the Waldmann testimony - is also readily available, and you could have checked *it*.)<br /><br />> Which is what the quote is talking about, when the guy then pulls out direct quotes from trial itself discussing the matter about 10 seconds afterwards.<br /><br />The "units" part characterizes the Waldmann testimony which was not about Einsatzgruppen but rather about Sachsenhausen.<br /><br />> Nope, I don't want to trawl through a 50 minute video looking for a picture to win an argument on the internet, he should've included a timestamp.<br /><br />Ah, but you see, his pictures with quotes and cabinets and whatnot last more than 1 sec, you can see them with the preview feature at youtube. Can you find any mobile crematorium picture this way?Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-69725278416905756662020-04-28T03:44:44.570+01:002020-04-28T03:44:44.570+01:00Nah, sorry, 'Unknown', if someone at IMT h...Nah, sorry, 'Unknown', if someone at IMT had claimed mobile crematoria operating in the occupied USSR then revisionists would have been all over that. But they (Mattogno, Rudolf etc) haven't mentioned this. Instead we have Carlos Porter touting the Waldmann affidavit (USSR-52) several times i Made in Russia: The Holocaust, which is likely the video-maker's source. The video-maker garbled and seems to have misunderstood Waldmann's affidavit re the murder of Soviet POWs at Sachsenhausen, which is outside Berlin. Just because the victims were Soviet POWs doesn't imply they were being killed or cremated in the occupied USSR. Waldmann's statement mentions mobile crematoria, which absolutely existed and were used in the concentration camps in Germany, as well as in the euthanasia centres. Kori made them. <br /><br />The open-air cremations by Aktion 1005 at some (not all) killing sites in the occupied Soviet Union were carried out using pyres, some of which were built on grates of railway ties. Sometimes in Russian-language reports these are referred to as pech', plural pechi (печь, печи) which translates multiply as fire, furnace, oven - it's an all-purpose word whose precise meaning depends on context. It's used in the reports to describe pyres as well as crematoria. From time to time, the pyre sense of pech' gets mistranslated as crematorium. (The Russian language also has the loan-word krematorii (крематорий) for crematorium.) But I don't see any discussion of mobile furnaces, grates or crematoria in Smirnov's presentation at IMT when he discusses Aktion 1005 at Janowska (Yanov in Russian). Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-64777386212598883112020-04-28T01:55:10.867+01:002020-04-28T01:55:10.867+01:00Ryan, you are terrible at this.
"You know mo...Ryan, you are terrible at this. <br />"You know more holocaust factoids than me, because it's all you do. Congratulations." - what sort of anti-intellectual garbage is this? are you gonna call him a book-reading nerd next?<br />I'll give you credit for one thing - your genius "dragon and bear" logic finally made me realize the Dresden bombing never happened at all.FSFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00681859573787129681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-16609337191058388042020-04-28T00:54:23.145+01:002020-04-28T00:54:23.145+01:00"Not really"
Yeah, really.
Look, I get t..."Not really"<br />Yeah, really.<br />Look, I get that you're really, REALLY into the subject, but trying to mischaractarize a point does not lend to your argument, it diminishes it.<br /><br />"Mobile cremation units"<br />The keyword there would be units, i.e, SS units trawling around the Russian front disposing of the evidence.<br />Which is what the quote is talking about, when the guy then pulls out direct quotes from trial itself discussing the matter about 10 seconds afterwards.<br /><br />"Can you show me where"<br />Nope, I don't want to trawl through a 50 minute video looking for a picture to win an argument on the internet, he should've included a timestamp.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05984993889485579481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-40583531912172426522020-04-27T16:27:47.968+01:002020-04-27T16:27:47.968+01:00Not really, since the denial of the mobile cremato...Not really, since the denial of the mobile crematoria as such is clear, and this denial is then deceptively denied. The rest will be responded to too, of course.<br /><br />Oh, one more denial quote:<br /><br />"oh good we have eyewitness testimony from the SS itself to confirm mobile cremation units I mean what more powerful evidence than a confession from a defeated enemy after a war he was one of the participants in"<br /><br />Oh, and as to "in the video I actually had a picture of one with a caption saying it's a mobile crematoria" - care to specify where? Because somehow, surprise surprise, I can find it neither in the version I have saved, nor in the version that is currently up on YouTube.<br /><br />Care to point out the exact time at which the alleged picture appears?Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-42134772156234595792020-04-27T14:59:18.982+01:002020-04-27T14:59:18.982+01:00You might want to respond to the full quote which ...You might want to respond to the full quote which is:<br /><br />"He says I say mobile crematoria didn't exist, that's false, in the video I actually had a picture of one with a caption saying it's a mobile crematoria, the claim is that these things were being trundled around in Russia, along with mobile gas chambers and bone-grinding mills, in order to remove evidence of genocide."<br /><br />Which is a bit different to the angle you're going for.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05984993889485579481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-7395925953258463562020-04-27T13:59:07.082+01:002020-04-27T13:59:07.082+01:00Thanks for the link, Junk. I will respond, but I w...Thanks for the link, Junk. I will respond, but I will note that he begins with an obvious lie: "He says I say mobile crematoria didn't exist, that's false".<br /><br />Of course he denies them over, and over, and over again. <br /><br />"facts about the Holocaust that had been<br />denied by mainstream historians things<br />like mobile crematoria"<br /><br />"the mainstream Holocaust historians are<br />denying the well-established mobile<br />killing machines that the Nazis used the<br />Nazis not only had mobile gas chambers<br />but also mobile crematoria ovens"<br /><br />"they weren't explicitly told anywhere to<br />design and build mobile crematorium and<br />then destroy any trace of their design<br />and manufacture but that's what they did"<br /><br />"the evidence that proves<br />mobile crematoria is the same kind of<br />evidence that proves homicidal gassings<br />at Dachau is the same kind of evidence<br />that proves mass extermination in the<br />camps that the Soviets ended up<br />controlling"<br /><br />Someone who lies about the very thing they chose to emphasize? Both pathetic and pathological. Rest later.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-2575345898848622292020-04-27T08:05:37.093+01:002020-04-27T08:05:37.093+01:00Someone made a response to your conspiratorial ram...Someone made a response to your conspiratorial ramblings about this rube goldberg machine genocide you believe in:<br />https://fodderposts.blogspot.com/2020/04/so-sergey-at-holocaust-controversies.htmlJunk Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10852215693814539657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-26916002167869247782019-01-11T20:28:40.650+00:002019-01-11T20:28:40.650+00:00I guess it would be useful indeed, I've seen i...I guess it would be useful indeed, I've seen it thrown around on Twitter.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.com