tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post6308540581363394921..comments2024-03-20T07:25:58.202+00:00Comments on Holocaust Controversies: Reponse to Moranen the MoronNicholas Terryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-20926357621428380492010-05-03T09:43:21.281+01:002010-05-03T09:43:21.281+01:00Roberto, I read a few sentences from Moranen the M...Roberto, I read a few sentences from Moranen the Moron (starting with the pathetic 'I started deceptively spewing out comments and arguments (with humor) that are easily debunked, [...]', and I thought oh, my God! Then I almost fell from my chair reading his 'argumentation'. What an abyss of human stupidity!<br /><br />Please, keep up the good work against these.Molnár Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11923473332423969464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-33893743375326595872009-09-13T23:24:25.792+01:002009-09-13T23:24:25.792+01:00You're a funny guy, Roberto. Holocaust denial ...<i>You're a funny guy, Roberto. Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany because the Holocaust is a myth. The German government has always known it's a myth. The Allies who imposed the myth on Germany (through the Nuremberg show trials) knew it was a myth. It's never been about history. It's about politics and geopolitics. Germany is now a U.S. satellite carefully & slowly groping for sovereignty. She needs nuclear weapons for true sovereignty, and she needs Russia and China to get there. The U.S. is an amoral thug reigning through mountains of lies, deception, assassinations, wars. See, for starters:<br /><br />http://killinghope.org/<br /><br />You just don't get it, do you? Your pathetic wide-eyed petition can only cause silent embarrassment among the highest German officials, while they keep on looking for ways to undermine the U.S. hegemony. You don't even know what you're doing or why you're doing it. For "democracy"?<br /><br />The Holocaust is a joke. Everything about it is a joke. Everyone who has taken another look at it knows it's a joke. The reason that you don't know it's a joke is that you don't know much of anything. If you paid any attention to anything much, you would know it's a joke.</i><br /><br />The pathetic hollering of another pitiable creature desperately trying to convince itself of the hollow humbug it badly wants to believe in. <br /><br />I must have a talent for pissing off such creatures. <br /><br />And what's particularly funny is that hk offers as a reference, of all places, the <a href="http://www.codoh.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=c09562c35c96823201efd2e7b4c69f98" rel="nofollow">CODOH Cesspit</a>, where today, as I just saw, <a href="http://www.codoh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5692&sid=c09562c35c96823201efd2e7b4c69f98#p38065" rel="nofollow">good old Freddy Berg went into one of his well-known fits of hysteria</a> after belatedly discovering (senility is taking its toll) my <a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/R1L3GLUB1KQ87B/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R1L3GLUB1KQ87B" rel="nofollow">review</a> of a thinly disguised regurgitation of "Revisionist" herrings written by some "Revisionist" fraud who calls himself "Thomas Dalton PhD". <br /><br />If my review made Berg bite the carpet, what will he do upon reading <a href="http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/search?q=Dalton" rel="nofollow">the blogs so far addressed to this "Dalton" fellow and his overpriced roll of toilet paper</a>? <br /><br />Thanks for directing me to the Cesspit, hk. Tomorrow I'll have some more fun with old Freddy.Roberto Muehlenkamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03608133715777146924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-88001232722268047352009-09-10T13:08:17.188+01:002009-09-10T13:08:17.188+01:00You're a funny guy, Roberto. Holocaust denial ...You're a funny guy, Roberto. Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany <i>because</i> the Holocaust is a myth. The German government has always known it's a myth. The Allies who imposed the myth on Germany (through the Nuremberg show trials) knew it was a myth. It's never been about history. It's about politics and geopolitics. Germany is now a U.S. satellite carefully & slowly groping for sovereignty. She needs nuclear weapons for true sovereignty, and she needs Russia and China to get there. The U.S. is an amoral thug reigning through mountains of lies, deception, assassinations, wars. See, for starters:<br /><br />http://killinghope.org/<br /><br />You just don't get it, do you? Your pathetic wide-eyed petition can only cause silent embarrassment among the highest German officials, while they keep on looking for ways to undermine the U.S. hegemony. You don't even know what you're doing or why you're doing it. For "democracy"?<br /><br />The Holocaust is a joke. Everything about it is a joke. Everyone who has taken <a href="http://www.codoh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5577" rel="nofollow">another look at it</a> knows it's a joke. The reason that you don't know it's a joke is that you don't know much of anything. If you paid any attention to anything much, you would know it's a joke.V. Aishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18419896377130115918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-85733545703833591262009-08-10T16:10:44.509+01:002009-08-10T16:10:44.509+01:00Read the entry on "Schindler"s List&quo...Read the entry on "Schindler"s List" at www.miamifauxlawyers.blogspot.com/ It is one of the best analysis of the film ever [and makes some good points ].anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12162215584086296714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-70734964260205271662009-08-09T12:57:32.868+01:002009-08-09T12:57:32.868+01:00"ALL of your 32 comments are published now, b...<i>"ALL of your 32 comments are published now, because today I read them briefly."</i><br /><br />You're a liar, Moranen. You removed the link to the HC blog from your blog on 5 August 2008, as a fellow blogger on the RODOH forum can confirm. <br /><br />As to the rest of your post: your nonsense won't become any less nonsensical however often you reassert it. But every repetition will make you look more moronic than you do already, so please keep it on. As to your "all estimations" link, I suggest you stop making a fool of yourself. This is from the THHP page <br />http://www.holocaust-history.org/questions/numbers.shtml: <br /><br /><i>Highly accurate demographic estimates of the Jewish people exist and are available to the general public. One publication has been providing these statistics since 1900 in their yearly printing of _The American Jewish Year Book_ Although my own personal collection only dates from 1932, the older volumes are available in any good public library. The yearbook for 1932 states:<br /><br />"Of the total number of 15,192,218 Jews in the world, 9,418,248 reside in Europe, 538,609 in Africa, 585,791 in Asia, 24,783 in Australasia, and 4,624,787 in America."<br /><br />These numbers were assembled before the Holocaust, before the Nazis came into power, and before there was any particular threat to the Jews in Europe.<br /><br />The yearbook for 1947 states:<br /><br />"Estimates of the world Jewish population have been assembled by the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (except for the United States and Canada) and are probably the most authentic available at the present time. [Note: the effective date of this census is May, 1946 - HWM]. The figures reveal that the total Jewish population of the world has decreased by one-third from about 16,600,000 in 1939 to about 11,000,000 in 1946 as the result of the annihilation by the Nazis of more than five and a half million European Jews."<br /><br />"In Europe only an estimated 3,642,000 remain of the total Jewish pre-war population of approximately 9,740,000. The major part of the present Jewish population -- about 5,176,000 -- lives in the United States and Canada. [...]"<br /><br />Even with limited skills in the field of statistics it is possible to confirm that a potential growth from 15,192,000 in 1932 to a population of 16,500,000 in 1946 would not have been impossible nor unreasonable. It would have signified a growth of just over 9% in Jewish population in a period of 15 years. This was, of course, not to be. With the murder of 1/3 of the Jews in the world during the period 1940-1945, the world population of Jews has not even reached the levels of 1940.</i>Roberto Muehlenkamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03608133715777146924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-10173941707590922312009-08-09T12:44:38.750+01:002009-08-09T12:44:38.750+01:00Moranen's reply took some days in coming, and ...Moranen's reply took some days in coming, and when it did it was way too long for what little the moron has got to say - i.e. that he has no arguments to match mine, no answers to my questions, no justification for the standards of evidence by which he professes to require the events he denies (and only those) to be proven, and no evidence whatsoever to support his ridiculously absurd conspiracy theories - in sum, nothing to go by except the blind faith he lamely projects onto his opponent and the fantasies of his paranoid cloud-cuckoo-land in which <em>"White European peoples, are as well being manipulated by the Jew-promoted lies to destroy Europeans and European Civilization"</em>. <br /><br />I add Moranen's "<a href="http://moranen.blogspot.com/2009/08/moranen-vs-holo-muehlenkamp.html#update" rel="nofollow">Update of 9.8.2009: Mr. Muehlenkamp’s (the Mule) book long answers </a>" (in which the classic out-of-context Finkelstein quote could not be missing) preceding my comments (which he claims to have seen only today, even though he removed the link to my HC blog on his own blog on the very day the former was published) to my collection of instructive insights into "Revisionist" mentality.Roberto Muehlenkamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03608133715777146924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-53332704288547795022009-08-09T12:42:00.141+01:002009-08-09T12:42:00.141+01:00Well if I had known that you actually would respon...Well if I had known that you actually would respond with 32 answers, answering EVERY SINGLE sentence, then of course I would have been more careful with my language and more polite. The wrong impressions are corrected now.<br /><br />ALL of your 32 comments are published now, because today I read them briefly. And NO, there will not be 32 responses dealing with every sentence, not now nor never. Some of your points were interesting, I'll answer some of them some time in the future maybe.<br /><br />Robert86: Well if the Jews own so much of the West's mass media that they are able to set the norms of society and influence the ideas and opinions of European peoples and therefore politicians' too, and they are using the media to destroy Europeans and Europe with multiculturalism (e.g. http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/books-Preface.html#Media; http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/books-immigration.html), then of course I am anti-Jewish influence. Don't you think we Europeans have a right to own our media and politicians, and therefore our destinies, in the nations that we alone built, invented, improved and defended for thousands of years? Just so that the present brainwashed TV generation comes along and gives it all away to aliens without a fight?<br /><br />I'm sorry but this doesn't make any sense to me.<br /><br />Concerning other genocides: I gave my 7 reasons why only the Jewish genocide has to be analyzed so strictly, more strictly than others and why revisionists don't have to prove their point as strictly (they are not accusing anyone of murders). I am still waiting those specific documents about Execution Gas Chambers and documents about specifically gassed people. Funny how we both demand the things we know the other side does not have.<br /><br />These two links I should have mentioned earlier, concerning the fact that according to all estimations there 12-18 million Jews before WW2 and 11-18 million Jews after the war:<br />http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_408.html;<br />http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_409.html.Moranenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13393132886809447700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-10609739670643515972009-08-09T02:54:33.907+01:002009-08-09T02:54:33.907+01:00"I am also interested to learn what people li...<i>"I am also interested to learn what people like Moranen have to say about other genocides and atrocities that where committed by someone other than their Nazi poster boys. Many of them like Frank Weltner often poo-hoo the evil "Judeo-Bolshevik" killing of millions in the USSR under Stalin. Yet why do they accept these historical facts and not the Holocaust. Does one have more proof or a better quality of proof then the other? As Sergey Romanov pointed out on this blog, there are "revisionists" of cases like the shootings at Katyn and other Soviet crimes too. So is one regimes crimes propaganda and the other false?"</i><br><br>Robert86, "revisionist" logic is simple: 'jews are the evil', antisemitism is good, evil and magical conspiracy comes from the jews, "jews control whole world", etc. That's the "revisionist" logic.<br /><br />The only genocide has got trouble of "understanding" for "revis" is the Holocaust executed for nazis, the other genocides haven't got troubles for "revis", just Holocaust for nazis has got "trouble" for them, because it's a genocide in that jews were victms.Robertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16005089545065782123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-89233516981059625852009-08-06T06:02:39.021+01:002009-08-06T06:02:39.021+01:00Moranen - "You have to believe it ALL, or els...Moranen - "You have to believe it ALL, or else it falls apart (just like religion)".<br /><br />'Falsus in uno, falsus omnibus' right? Truly pathetic . . . I hope this guy does not think the same way when it applies to his positions on certain issues. Then he would not be a very good revisionist.<br /><br />Moranen's anti-semitic diatribes peppered throughout this "dialogue" illustrates he is the usual garden variety, white supremacist scumbag. Still one can have a position, no matter how crude and still make something of an argument. <br /><br />Yet most of what he says are straw-men and the usual regurgitated nonsense these "revisionists" try to pull. Just trying to poke holes in an argument that should have been put to rest years ago. <br /><br />I am still waiting for those documents about actual resettlement to the Russian east to be unearthed and to blow this whole grand conspiracy of conspiracies wide open. No, really I am! That would be a HUGE historic find. <br /><br />I am also interested to learn what people like Moranen have to say about other genocides and atrocities that where committed by someone other than their Nazi poster boys. Many of them like Frank Weltner often poo-hoo the evil "Judeo-Bolshevik" killing of millions in the USSR under Stalin. Yet why do they accept these historical facts and not the Holocaust. Does one have more proof or a better quality of proof then the other? As Sergey Romanov pointed out on this blog, there are "revisionists" of cases like the shootings at Katyn and other Soviet crimes too. So is one regimes crimes propaganda and the other false?Robert86https://www.blogger.com/profile/07399340685632529674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-63319234078202035532009-08-06T05:25:57.693+01:002009-08-06T05:25:57.693+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Robert86https://www.blogger.com/profile/07399340685632529674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-17508562296399089062009-08-05T16:20:45.999+01:002009-08-05T16:20:45.999+01:00PS: The articles referred to but not identified in...<b>PS</b>: The articles referred to but not identified in installment (27) are the following: <br /><br /><a href="http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/08/one-might-think-that.html" rel="nofollow"><i>One might think that …</i></a> <br /><br /><a href="http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2008/04/5-million-non-jewish-victims.html" rel="nofollow"><i>5 million non-Jewish victims? (Part 1)</i></a> <br /><br /><a href="http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2008/04/5-million-non-jewish-victims-part-2.html" rel="nofollow"><i>5 million non-Jewish victims? (Part 2)</i></a> <br /><br />[Posted on Moranen’s blog on 05.08.2009 at 16:19 hours GMT]Roberto Muehlenkamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03608133715777146924noreply@blogger.com