tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post4957193377074495708..comments2024-03-20T07:25:58.202+00:00Comments on Holocaust Controversies: Knowledge of the Final Solution in Nazi Satellite States: 1) HungaryNicholas Terryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-24707661362567457962017-03-09T18:29:47.379+00:002017-03-09T18:29:47.379+00:00Lol, sorry Nathan I misunderstood your 'good c...Lol, sorry Nathan I misunderstood your 'good catch' comment. It originally sounded like something one would sarcastically say to a denier , as if he had just learnt how to catch a ball, after he had learnt to tie his shoe laces ! <br /><br />No wonder the trial transcripts have never been released then- the whole trial must have been a complete farce !DasPrussianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04393315985932866161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-84180232845350159752017-03-09T14:13:13.592+00:002017-03-09T14:13:13.592+00:00DasPrussian:
"How could the situation arise ...DasPrussian:<br /><br />"How could the situation arise where the architect's aide knew more than the senior architect?"<br /><br />He didn't. But the senior architect dissembled, dodged and misrepresented the true extent of his knowledge and involvement, whereas the junior guy was more honest and open about it. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-46218601940581241512017-03-09T01:55:19.936+00:002017-03-09T01:55:19.936+00:00-my previous post may suggest that I am of the den...-my previous post may suggest that I am of the denier persuasion, I can assure you this is not the case-<br /><br />I can assure you, I'm aware of this. I've read the others talk about you on SSF, and I have seen your stuff at Rodoh. <br /><br />-Going back to the trial, I wonder if at any point Dejaco was cross examined by the prosecution lawyer and was asked how it came to be that his aide knew the true purpose of the crems yet he himself claimed ignorance. -<br /><br />If the Dejaco trial was anything like the Frankfurt Auschwitz trial (where the prosecution was allegedly so indifferent that one "would be tempted to think that they were attending the wrong trial"), I doubt it. The game was rigged in the defendants' favor, the complete opposite of the "show trial"/"kangaroo court" fantasy that the deniers are peddling. <br /><br />My "good catch" remark actually refers to your excellent point at how inconsistent the Jury was when assessing Dejaco and Ertl's testimonies, and determinong Ertl innocent because of "superior orders" (placing the blame on his superior) despite that very same superior, Dejaco, denying any knowledge. That can only be explained by what Dr. Harrison and I pointed out: it is an example of the leniency and or support by the Austrian court system towards the defendant, and the refutation of the Deniers' legalism fantasies. The jury and the judge were in favor of the defendants. "Show trials" never happened. Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660486969581542489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-58086647146759016292017-03-08T20:40:25.628+00:002017-03-08T20:40:25.628+00:00Nathan said "That's a very good catch &qu...Nathan said "That's a very good catch "<br /><br />Just to clear something up here, although my username, profile pic and my previous post may suggest that I am of the denier persuasion, I can assure you this is not the case. Just pop over to Rodoh if you want to see what side of the fence I sit on :) <br /><br />Going back to the trial, I wonder if at any point Dejaco was cross examined by the prosecution lawyer and was asked how it came to be that his aide knew the true purpose of the crems yet he himself claimed ignorance. I am curious how he would have answered. However I doubt if we will ever know exactly how this trial played out between prosecution and defence as I believe the transcripts have not been made available to view.<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />DasPrussianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04393315985932866161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-3471799876950965702017-03-08T02:51:35.742+00:002017-03-08T02:51:35.742+00:00-What appears strange in this trial is how Ertl wa...-What appears strange in this trial is how Ertl was let off even though he knew what the crematoria was being used for, but was 'following orders' yet Dejaco, who was Ertl's senior claimed he did not know what the crems were being used for !-<br /><br />That's a very good catch. :)<br /><br />There's a very simple answer, though. Our denier friends won't like it. The fact is that the German and Austrian Courts were neither controlled by the Americans nor by Jews, and were more on the side of the defendants than the victims. The hoax never happened, and the fundamental assumption behind Denial is false. Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660486969581542489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-90180647306149671842017-03-07T22:38:59.496+00:002017-03-07T22:38:59.496+00:00What appears strange in this trial is how Ertl was...What appears strange in this trial is how Ertl was let off even though he knew what the crematoria was being used for, but was 'following orders' yet Dejaco, who was Ertl's senior claimed he did not know what the crems were being used for ! Even though he was more senior than Ertl, who was a mere 'aide' !<br /><br />How could the situation arise where the architect's aide knew more than the senior architect ?DasPrussianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04393315985932866161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-24101448292554826052017-03-06T19:03:23.848+00:002017-03-06T19:03:23.848+00:00Geoff, this is covered in Michael Thad Allen's...Geoff, this is covered in Michael Thad Allen's article on the Dejaco trial, 'Realms of Oblivion'. He was an engineer testifying for the defense, nothing more than that.Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-68620439451651703432017-03-06T02:04:32.665+00:002017-03-06T02:04:32.665+00:00In the Austrian trial,I have never been able to fi...In the Austrian trial,I have never been able to find who the 'expert' was who said the Kremas could not have been converted into gas chambers.Does anyone know?Geoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18437586270378724045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-3917954579918150162017-03-05T06:09:39.053+00:002017-03-05T06:09:39.053+00:00"Austrian juries were very lenient:
http://w..."Austrian juries were very lenient:<br /><br />http://www.jta.org/1972/03/13/archive/austrian-jury-acquits-two-ex-nazis"<br /><br />Let me finish that for you; Austrian Juries were very lenient, were not "controlled" by Jews, and did not have what Holocaust deniers call "Holocaust Guilt". There was no "Allied" conspiracy to fabricate the Holocaust. Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660486969581542489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-72602096961759252432017-03-04T18:04:54.134+00:002017-03-04T18:04:54.134+00:00Great item, Jon, Thanks for this as well as the pi...Great item, Jon, Thanks for this as well as the piece on Ciano.Statistical Mechanichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00692815834132828535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-78249764217259142712017-03-04T01:02:43.396+00:002017-03-04T01:02:43.396+00:00Austrian juries were very lenient:
http://www.jta...Austrian juries were very lenient:<br /><br />http://www.jta.org/1972/03/13/archive/austrian-jury-acquits-two-ex-nazisJonathan Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929794273877529591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-33786974401737797272017-03-04T00:42:47.077+00:002017-03-04T00:42:47.077+00:00Sorry to go off topic here.I have been trying to f...Sorry to go off topic here.I have been trying to find out exactly why architects Walter Dejaco&Fritz Ertl were acquitted at their 1972 trial.I thought Ertl admitted the gassings.Can anyone help?ThanksGeoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18437586270378724045noreply@blogger.com