tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post2653976902221854966..comments2024-03-29T13:40:51.077+00:00Comments on Holocaust Controversies: Sonderkommando Kulmhof in German Documents - The Extermination of 100,000 JewsNicholas Terryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-4451038690064457382019-09-25T19:42:07.396+01:002019-09-25T19:42:07.396+01:00Testa in fact openly published "Testa-Fibel ü...Testa in fact openly published "Testa-Fibel über Normalgaskammern".<br /><br />The Tesch trial affidavits explain that this referred to 10 cbm chambers. GCs of deviating volume were no longer Normalgaskammern.<br /><br />A good example of too much enthusiasm in searching for criminal traces leading nowhere.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-28952435407078526062017-09-10T15:42:02.876+01:002017-09-10T15:42:02.876+01:00Man, it almost seems that you want these claims to...Man, it almost seems that you want these claims to be true, so that you can scream about "anti semitism". But okay, I am a person that wants the truth, so I will except this piece of evidence. I will will analyze it objectively.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-59215557648147610532017-08-08T14:29:46.257+01:002017-08-08T14:29:46.257+01:00To answer that one would have to study the documen...To answer that one would have to study the documentary and historical context. With Turner's letter the context *together* with the quotes leaves no doubt as to the meaning. Simply pointing to quotes and underlining in this correspondence doesn't really even hint at anything, much less prove it. If one can establish that it couldn't plausibly point at anything but in the direction of the HGCs, sure. But the burden of proof is on those that make the claim.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-13217522537291529662017-08-04T22:04:54.016+01:002017-08-04T22:04:54.016+01:00So why do you think the following phrases were und...So why do you think the following phrases were underlined in the letter in question ? <br /><br />1.‘normal gas chamber’ <br />2. most urgently <br />3. in which direction <br />4.‘Ariginal gassing.'<br /><br />I guess 2 and 3 were underlined to stress their importance. I don't understand Mattognos reasoning why 1 and 4 were underlined AND put in quotes. He said this was because :<br /><br />"the term “Normalgaskammer” was already in use with Tesch<br />& Stabenow in a letter antedating the one from Boos, from which Jährling<br />had taken it, and for that very reason he set it out underlined and in<br />quotations marks, exactly the same way he did for the term “Ariginalvergasung”<br />which he had taken instead from the letter written by the SS<br />garrison surgeon to ZBL on May 20, 1944.272 "<br /><br />I don't exactly follow Mattognos reasoning here. Is he saying that the reason the words were underlined and in quote marks was because they were also in this format in previous correspondence, and Jahrling was just copying the format ? Well if this was the case then why were they in that format in the previous correspondence then ?DasPrussianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04393315985932866161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-828353904689125552017-08-03T23:22:30.643+01:002017-08-03T23:22:30.643+01:00I don't see how "Normalgaskammer" is...I don't see how "Normalgaskammer" is a criminal trace. Pressac was reaching with this one.Sergey Romanovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04063444062099331337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-74354144760834476802017-08-03T22:48:58.097+01:002017-08-03T22:48:58.097+01:00Yes Jon, I see he has reverted to 'plan D'...Yes Jon, I see he has reverted to 'plan D' for this particular explanation, he has decided to invent his own translation and transformed phrase 'not existing' to 'not being present'. Wow ! imagine the trouble this would cause if all German schools decided to use Mattagnos version when taking the register ! :<br /><br />" I see young Heinz is 'not existing' again today ! Lets hope he will be existing tomorrow when he gets a prize for 'being the most existent' during the term "DasPrussianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04393315985932866161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-45775400462275869352017-08-03T22:11:20.932+01:002017-08-03T22:11:20.932+01:00Dass Prussian, see also how Mattogno deals with &q...Dass Prussian, see also how Mattogno deals with "their no longer existing kinfolk" in note 649.<br /><br />Jonathan Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929794273877529591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-13284112277685887692017-08-03T21:36:11.919+01:002017-08-03T21:36:11.919+01:00Thank you for your reply. Always good to learn som...Thank you for your reply. Always good to learn something new.arikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243079069178108753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-4554818175351619662017-08-03T18:15:45.881+01:002017-08-03T18:15:45.881+01:00Another great article, Hans.
I note that the ...Another great article, Hans. <br /><br />I note that the 'quote marks around a euphemism' situation has resurfaced again in document 24. The term in question here being 'brought away'. This brings to mind the famous Harald Turner letter of 11.04.42 where he also adopted this practice by inserting the term 'delousing van' in between the same style quote marks.<br /><br />I have yet to see any decent response from the revisionist corner in explaining this blatant use of euphemisms. Mattogno compares it to a situation where the word 'standard gas chamber' is underlined in a letter by the company Tesch & Stabenow, and claims this doesn't mean it had a criminal meaning . Underlining words is slightly different to putting words in between quote marks though, isn't it ? <br /><br />I note that the same letter Mattogno refers to (see page 182 note 272 of his 'Case for Sanity' book and page 292 of his HC critique - note 648) also had the term 'Ariginal Gassing' both underlined and in quote marks, which surely should have been a better argument for Mattogno to use as an example of non-criminal use of quote marks. But the fact it is both underlined and in quote marks maybe suggests another reason for highlighting the term in such a manner, therefore this cannot be compared to the scenario re Turners letter. <br /><br />I'll ignore Mattogno's further explanation ( on page 292 of his 'critique' re HC's Local Exterminations section) that delousing vans would have been used to evacuate the deportees therefore it would be reasonable to write this , even in quote marks! On the grounds that it is a pile of dog shit.<br /><br /> <br /><br />DasPrussianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04393315985932866161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-7895440783441587392017-07-31T00:26:48.111+01:002017-07-31T00:26:48.111+01:00They weren't used as gassing engines at Belzec...They weren't used as gassing engines at Belzec/Sobibor/Treblinka, either. Diesels were used at these camps for power generation, colocated alongside gasoline engines identified by all the direct operators, anyone else who spoke of a diesel was not a direct operator. <br /><br />https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2006/06/why-diesel-issue-is-irrelevant.html<br />https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/belzec-sobibor-treblinka-holocaust_9432.html<br />https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/rebuttal-of-alvarez-on-gas-vans-why.html<br /><br />Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-88724302755100060152017-07-30T22:19:48.841+01:002017-07-30T22:19:48.841+01:00Absolutely breathtaking. May i just ask, if it is ...Absolutely breathtaking. May i just ask, if it is agreed that disel engine is not sutible for murder by mean of gas van, wouldn't it contradict the use of disel engines in death camps such as Treblinka and Sobbibor?<br />I would appriciate some clarification.<br />Arik.arikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243079069178108753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-62005032966240143702017-07-30T04:32:37.158+01:002017-07-30T04:32:37.158+01:00Wow, amazing docs, I'll pass these along to Sk...Wow, amazing docs, I'll pass these along to Skeptics, I'll tack these on to my Chelmno thread.J Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04893548775462142380noreply@blogger.com