tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post17702252520156137..comments2024-03-20T07:25:58.202+00:00Comments on Holocaust Controversies: "Pregnant Women will be Put to Death": Policies on ChildbirthNicholas Terryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-89177665852550082302013-01-10T02:36:46.954+00:002013-01-10T02:36:46.954+00:00"The crimes of the NKVD is not in doubt, neve..."The crimes of the NKVD is not in doubt, never has. You're free to deny it, though!"<br /><br />Actually poor Franz, several countries which punish any denial of the Holocaust also punish the similar denial of communist atrocities. See for instance Poland, the Czech republic, and Hungary.<br /><br />And communist crimes are as much in doubt amongst reasonable minds as the Holocaust. Jason Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00315463581646057876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-27472990225028085122013-01-07T19:35:48.141+00:002013-01-07T19:35:48.141+00:00Well, ok, just to entertain you; no it is not '...Well, ok, just to entertain you; no it is not 'hurtful' not having this Geller slimebag on my side. Satisfied now, Nathan?<br /><br />FRANZFranz Holtzhäuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516070246513838626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-65503712302823471272013-01-07T00:56:50.816+00:002013-01-07T00:56:50.816+00:00Why does he find it so hard to answer a simple que...Why does he find it so hard to answer a simple question? Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660486969581542489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-29118016281162003042013-01-06T22:36:35.908+00:002013-01-06T22:36:35.908+00:00Oh dear, we have a daft one. Geller is a Jew, Nath...Oh dear, we have a daft one. Geller is a Jew, Nathan. So is the "man" in the suit.<br />EDL is a movement squarely based on Zionist ideas and works very closely with Jewish interests, world-wide.<br /><br />Who'd want bottom racking scum like Geller on their side? She can preach immigration to Israel (for Arabs and Africans) but the revealing part is that she never has, and probably never will.<br /><br />The crimes of the NKVD is not in doubt, never has. You're free to deny it, though!<br /><br />FRANZFranz Holtzhäuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516070246513838626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-69089866909460775632013-01-06T15:25:00.240+00:002013-01-06T15:25:00.240+00:00-Pamela Geller-
A darling of the former BNP, now t...-Pamela Geller-<br />A darling of the former BNP, now the EDL. Your "former" allies now lining up with the "enemy". It hurts, doesn't it? No one giving a shit about you? The Jew bashing echo chamber getting smaller and smaller, until there's no one left to pat you on the back.<br /><br /><br />-The victims that I mention require no forensic documentation because there is nothing questionable about them. See the difference? Whenever there is a claim of a Jewish 'mass grave' you refuse to tag and bag the supposed victims along with the standards of forensic investigation.-<br /><br />This implies that you have no doubt of those crimes because "the supposed victims have been tagged and bagged 'along with' the standards of forensic investigation'". Have they? Let's have it then- every single victim of Soviet terror not from Katyn or Vinnitsa, positively identified as such with forensic evidence, and every single rape kit from every single rape victim of the red army. You find nothing questionable about them, so surely you should be able to provide the forensic evidence for them all. <br /><br /><br />The sad truth is that there's nothing questionable at all about the account given above. You've had so many chances to explain why you doubt it, but you haven't.You have no basis to question the account given of Kovno, at all. Nothing but your own prejudice and confirmation bias.<br /><br />--<i>People know</i> why that is so, too.It was the <i>Jewish NKVD</i> that did the most civilian killings in WW II - not the Germans!-<br />In addition to my above request, do you have any forensic evidence for the italics? The killer's DNA on the site, for example? Do you have any dissected brains with the neurons mapped showing that people <b>do</b> know? Let's have it.<br /><br />Your methodology is utterly worthless if it fails to validate your claims.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660486969581542489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-54309170221787062412013-01-06T14:08:14.174+00:002013-01-06T14:08:14.174+00:00I find nothing questionable with the crimes mentio...I find nothing questionable with the crimes mentioned by Nathan.<br />It is however revealing that he even compares them.<br />It is only the Jews who finds pleasure in Islamophobia and it is only the Jew who wishes to shift focus from them to Islam. One must bear in mind that hatred of Islam, Muslims and Arabs comes from the Jews.<br />Immigration to European countries for quite different people (such as Arabs or Africans) are 100% encouraged by Jews, too. See Pamela Geller, for starters. Of course they want people to rather shift focus on a non-issue, or an issue created by them, rather.<br />Here is one of you, a 'Swede' too! The guy has managed to, almost, get a suit that fits him now, too:<br />http://www.photo2be.com/_2BE6364.jpg<br />He has never been for 'anti-semitism' and quite frankly, given his looks, one certainly understands why that is so.<br />Another fine picture:<br />http://db2.stb.s-msn.com/i/AD/CF8369EE904887CDDECD93D4C8C32C.jpg<br /><br />You'll have to copy 'n paste the URLs (you're used to doing that) because I do not intend to wrap them in HTML tags, Nathan.<br /><br />The victims that I mention require no forensic documentation because there is nothing questionable about them. See the difference? Whenever there is a claim of a Jewish 'mass grave' you refuse to tag and bag the supposed victims along with the standards of forensic investigation. People know why that is so, too.<br /><b><i>It was the Jewish NKVD that did the most civilian killings in WW II - not the Germans!</i></b><br /><br />FRANZFranz Holtzhäuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516070246513838626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-79985622771124642422013-01-06T03:11:45.187+00:002013-01-06T03:11:45.187+00:00- compared to the millions of other victims in WW...- compared to the <b>millions</b> of other victims in WWII? -<br />Hmm.. Is there any forensic evidence for these millions of victims K0nsl is talking about? There must be some, right?Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660486969581542489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-48661637181511138232013-01-06T02:27:27.879+00:002013-01-06T02:27:27.879+00:00- bearing in mind that there is no forensic eviden...- bearing in mind that there is no forensic evidence to corroborate the claims made therein.- <br />Still no forensic evidence for:<br />- expulsion of Germans from the east-<br />- Mass rapes-<br />- Gulags and Soviet crimes at places other than Katyn and Vinnitsa-<br /><br />-I agree too, with Graf, that with regard to that statement - the remark by your hero Karl Jäger - that Jewish life in Lithuania is over, must be a lie.- <br />Graf must've pulled it out of his ass, then. All known sources say otherwise.<br /><br />-Well, I'm not inclined to believe a piece of paper somebody conveniently 'found' -<br />No bitching about "Soviet Manipulation". Hmm. In that other article K0nsl trolled, it was pointed out that the Soviet policy at the time was not to identify the victims as Jews, which therefore makes any bitching about "Soviet Manipulation" pointless. K0nsl must be annoyed that he has nothing to say.<br /><br />-Nathan:<br />You're a fool if you think that people would hate Germans or Germany because Chancellor Merkel makes a wrong.<br />Probably was not even her fault, either-<br />A wrong what? So frustrated that you have nothing to say?<br />You'd be an even bigger fool if you think that people would "hate" "Germans or Germany" because of something that happened sixty seven years ago and not because of current German policies. Most people have moved on- Even Jews today are more concerned about the Israel-Arab conflict than with the Holocaust. As said before, even K0nsl's "fellows" have moved on from antisemitism to Islamophobia. The only "obsession" here is those of the deniers.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660486969581542489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-27961493943167121452013-01-05T17:28:26.171+00:002013-01-05T17:28:26.171+00:00Well, I'm not inclined to believe a piece of p...Well, I'm not inclined to believe a piece of paper somebody conveniently 'found' over fifteen years after the supposed deed - bearing in mind that there is no forensic evidence to corroborate the claims made therein.<br />On top of this we've got a diary writer, a Jew, by the name of Avraham Tory who survived the ordeal as well.<br />So USHMM and Kook Ford says its a 'order' whilst Ing-Brett says it was a policy within the report supposedly authored by that of Karl Jäger? But none of these Supermen of the Holoshlock can produce it.<br /><br />Kookford, I find it unreliable because there is nothing except his words to collaborate the claim.<br />Mr. Graf was right to mention his findings contained in the book ANATOLOGY OF HOLOCAUST LITERATURE which depicts life in Lithuania as flourishing from 1941 to 1944.<br />I agree too, with Graf, that with regard to that statement - the remark by your hero Karl Jäger - that Jewish life in Lithuania is over, must be a lie.<br /><br />Look, what are some tens of thousands of dead Jews (via all causes) compared to the millions of other victims in WWII? Yeah, a spit in the ocean. But I occupy myself with this issue mainly because I hate that you denigrate Germany and Germans for Zionist interests.<br />Besides that point I also find it despicable how you can lie so brazenly about history.<br /><br />This was not a "holocaust". <b>Jews are still in the year of 2013 flourishing; as they were in Kovno in 1941 and onwards.</b><br /><br />FRANZFranz Holtzhäuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516070246513838626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-62127890503034353572013-01-01T23:42:06.742+00:002013-01-01T23:42:06.742+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ingbritthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11081637959654574923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-57281174347702241582013-01-01T23:41:06.617+00:002013-01-01T23:41:06.617+00:00Scroll down to page 8 in this doc and you'll f...Scroll down to page 8 in this doc and you'll find the policy on pregnant Jewish women.<br /><br />http://alley-cat.info//wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Jaeger_Report.pdfIngbritthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11081637959654574923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-12344229325174531612012-12-28T10:42:28.737+00:002012-12-28T10:42:28.737+00:00STILL nothing. Why am I not surprised? For your am...STILL <b>nothing</b>. Why am I not surprised? For your amusement, I'll play surprised.<br />Kookford and Terry basically has offered nothing to support their claims of a supposed "holocaust" in Lithuania. But anyone is naturally free to believe their two references they have posted. That's what's so great with the Hurencau$t!<br /><br />Please resurrect Herr Bodmann for impregnation with phenol injections of Crapford and Terry's mother. Oh wait, that was just hysteric nonsense from yet another revengeful Jewess...this lovely, lovely Margita!<br /><br />As I say, reproduce the entire order, preferably photocopied, but the entire verbatim order would be fine too.<br /><br />FRANZFranz Holtzhäuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516070246513838626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-15646165444073562162012-12-26T16:01:33.847+00:002012-12-26T16:01:33.847+00:00"Does anyone else note that Crapford fails to..."Does anyone else note that Crapford fails to produce his claimed order? Please produce the claimed order in verbatim."<br /><br />Assholehauser, the order is not 'claimed'. It exists. It exists because we have referenced 2 separate books which cited the order, one of which includes a facsimile (photographic reproduction). These books also give traceable archival references.<br /><br />Now, according to all the rules of scholarship, that is that. There is never a requirement to reproduce sources in toto, historians of all eras don't do that, because it's a waste of time, space and effort.<br /><br />The system of academic citations has universal acceptance and is incredibly reliable. You can be guaranteed that on page 181 of the Hidden History of the Kovno Ghetto, a facsimile of the order appears. That should be common sense, because it's not just Kent Ford telling you this, it's me showing that Christoph Dieckmann in a totally different book also cited the same fucking page number.<br /><br />You are of course free to express your generic doubt of all sources related to the Holocaust, but unless *you* check the document and *you* show us that there is something fishy, or that we cited from the wrong page, or that Dieckmann's book doesn't actually discuss the order at all, or that the Hidden History of the Kovno ghetto doesn't contain the quotes and the facsimiles, then your doubts are utterly irrelevant. <br /><br />Since it's clear that you have absolutely no intention of checking out either book from a library, then all you're doing is demanding to be spoon-fed. You're trolling. So fuck off then.<br /><br />Your trolling is also clear from the fallback position of 'even if it exists, so what?' <br /><br />Actually so a lot, because it's one tiny piece of a much, much larger pile of evidence relating to the Holocaust in Lithuania, and the Holocaust as a whole. On its own, no piece of evidence ever proves something. On its own, every piece of evidence could be spun into a nonsensical story like your pathetic attempt to explain away this document. <br /><br />Taken together, however, pieces of evidence tell a very different story to the denier fairy-tales. Dieckmann's discussion of the Holocaust in Lithuania runs from page 789 to page 1328 of his book. That's 539 pages citing god knows how many sources from all sorts of archives, including lots of Nazi documents.<br /><br />We could quite easily spend ages pulling out piece after piece of evidence from this book, or from other books, and discuss them drip-drip-drip. No doubt that would annoy you and you'd troll some more. <br /><br />Or we can simply make a short post like Jon Harrison did, pointing to a readily available book in English, with pictures, for the benefit of whoever might read this blog, and it won't make much difference either way.<br /><br />Because whatever you pull out of your ass about one fact or one order or one event will be meaningless unless you can account for other facts, orders, events. Which you can only learn about by reading books. <br /><br />Until you show that *you* have engaged with the evidence (by reading) then all your comments are just farts in the wind.Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-81605295149378770522012-12-26T15:51:03.273+00:002012-12-26T15:51:03.273+00:00Pretty hilarious: "But as I have said already...Pretty hilarious: "But as I have said already - even if it exists, so what? It changes nothing really." In other words, no amount of evidence, and no document in any format, will convince this knucklehead of any point that doesn't fit his biases and preconceptions.<br /><br />Astounding.<br /><br />And yet, "we" were asked if we had anything other than "words from this Jew Avraham Tory" about anti-Jewish policy in Kovno.<br /><br />"We" have shown that we do. In fact, we never said we could share the materials from the archive at Yad Vashem in their entirety, so to say we failed to do so is a bit disingenuous. Now, someone could do so - that would be someone who researched the material in the cited compilation of orders. Too bad for k0nsl. If k0nsl can't produce a reason to doubt - amidst these numerous references to the order and a direct citation to the order itself - that the order exists, and was enforced, all he's proven is his own incompetence.<br /><br />Rather than deal with the complete melt-down of his opening salvo, and with the documentation "we" have, k0nsl simply repeats that he is too thick to believe what he doesn't want to. <br /><br />Revisionism in action, I suppose.Statistical Mechanichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00692815834132828535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-9769463871754021762012-12-26T14:24:40.761+00:002012-12-26T14:24:40.761+00:00Yeah, but do we actually have the entire 'clai...Yeah, but do we actually have the entire 'claimed order', in verbatim, Hairyson? Nope.<br />I'm not even sure why I bother with this because even if this order does exist and says what you claim this still wouldn't advance your Hurencaust Belief any further up the scale.<br />One can certainly understand the logic in such an order given the circumstances that reigned back when all this happened, well- minus your hate Germany claims.<br />Naturally one wouldn't wish to encourage births when a full-blown war is taking place and certainly more so considering that the Jews were more or less quarantined whilst sitting out the war waiting to be deported further east - and apparently a great deal of people were deported, but of course they're listed as either missing or murdered today.<br /><br />Well, to hell with it. I merely wished that you reproduced the entire claimed order in verbatim text.<br />You failed to do this. But as I have said already - even if it exists, so what? It changes nothing really.Franz Holtzhäuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516070246513838626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-82399331182519704382012-12-26T14:04:43.663+00:002012-12-26T14:04:43.663+00:00Gewecke interviewed by Lanzmann:
"Lanzmann a...Gewecke interviewed by Lanzmann:<br /><br />"Lanzmann asks Gewecke about the prohibition on Jewish pregnancies in the ghetto. Gewecke says he knew of the regulation but did not concern himself with enforcing it. He lists other restrictions and rules that Jews were required to follow. He says the Judenrat had authority over the Jewish police and for the Jews. The SD told him that if the smuggling of food did not stop they would liquidate Jews."<br /><br />http://resources.ushmm.org/film/display/detail.php?file_num=5089 Jonathan Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929794273877529591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-75425803837800237602012-12-26T13:25:46.154+00:002012-12-26T13:25:46.154+00:00Does anyone else note that Crapford fails to produ...Does anyone else note that Crapford fails to produce his claimed order?<br /><br />Please produce the claimed order in verbatim.<br /><br />As Mathis would have said; "put up, or shut up".<br /><br />I'll come back when you have produced the order, Kookford. Over and out!Franz Holtzhäuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516070246513838626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-79055888844889790362012-12-26T11:35:29.525+00:002012-12-26T11:35:29.525+00:00And what do you do about the various elements &quo...And what do you do about the various elements "we" have regarding German anti-natal policy for Jews in occupied Kovno?<br /><br />Shifting attention from your ignorant first reply, which has been seen to be demonstrably wrong and ill-informed, you now try making out a failure that "we" can't hand you the entire order or compilation of orders at Yad Vashem. But that wasn't what your initial objection was. Your initial objection was that "we" supposedly had nothing but one Jew's tall tale. How far we have come.<br /><br />So, having failed at putting across your first claim, you now try showing that I don't have what I never said I had. No, I don't have a facsimile of the order or any other translated material from the compilation of orders at Yad Vashem. I may have, in fact, cited this particular order in full, but I may not have - I simply don't know as I have not seen the compilation at Yad Vashem and have never claimed to, using, as I have written since my first reply and as people who study history do, work done by others citing that order. You don't know, either, by the way. <br /><br />Again, for your doubt of this order - which has been cited properly and according to the standards and conventions which historians employ and which also, as "We" have shown, caused contemporaries to make reference to the order and policy - to be given any credence, you need to show what is amiss here or to visit the archive and say where the USHMM researchers got it wrong.<br /><br />You've done nothing of the sort - because you have nothing and have well proven that you have nothing in empty reply after empty reply. The question arises whether you'll keep up the vacuous nonsense or bring up an actual point in this ugly history.Statistical Mechanichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00692815834132828535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-60765060655793724972012-12-26T11:34:39.761+00:002012-12-26T11:34:39.761+00:00Well, a lot of fuss to confirm, basically, that yo...Well, a lot of fuss to confirm, basically, that you have nothing to contribute to this discussion. Except your general and consuming doubt, in this case your doubt of Tory because, as you put it, he was "this Jew" and his "people aren't known to tell tall-tales." And nothing anti-Semitic, you say, except your doubting Tory on the sole ground that Jews tell tall-tales, you say - and throwing in some stray idiocy about a presumed need to criticize Jews harshly and "why you Jews have a like for all things 'ass.'"<br /><br />I see.<br /><br />Remember that you started off with a direct and verifiable claim - that all "we" have regarding German policy on this topic is Tory's word.<br /><br />Leaving aside that you haven't mustered a single, meaningful, source-based objection to Tory's word on this topic, I'll remind you what "we" have:<br /><br />1) Tory's contemporary diary entries reacting to the German order.<br /><br />2) Corresponding diary entries made by E. Yerushalmi in Shavli regarding similar German orders in force there.<br /><br />3) An example of the Kovno Jewish Council's reaction to the order, a document reiterating the imposition of the German decision banning pregnancy on penalty of death (with a page reference to both a facsimile of this document and a verbatim translation of a portion of it).<br /><br />4) A quotation (verbatim) from an SS leader - an accomplished leader of the extermination squads in Lithuania - urging that the Germans adopt a policy there forbidding pregnancy and liquidating Jewish women who become pregnant.<br /><br />5) A reference to at least one historical work citing the actual order, quoting it, as you insist on repeating, verbatim, translating its actual wording. You were given a page number for this citation (the USHMM's Hidden History of Kovno Ghetto, p. 22 ) as well as the archival reference for the document quoted (Yad Vashem, file 048 B12/4).<br /><br /> 6) A reference to a further a secondary work, "which," as Nick Terry explained to you, "discusses the exact same development with the exact same sources and then shows using monthly reports of the health department that there were (a) no more babies born in the Kovno ghetto after September 1942 and (b) quite a few operations in the ghetto hospital were abortions. quoting the relevant words as well as the archival reference for the order in a compilation of other German orders." (Nick kindly pointed you to the pages to which he referred, Dieckmann's Deutsche Besatzungspolitik in Litauen 1941-1944, pp.1098-1099.)Statistical Mechanichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00692815834132828535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-91520293992670025282012-12-26T05:02:57.707+00:002012-12-26T05:02:57.707+00:00Are you complaining about me biding you ‘good bye ...Are you complaining about me biding you ‘good bye for now’? You do realize what ‘for now’ means, yes? I returned one hour and thirty minutes later. You do not dictate how long time must pass between me leaving and later returning. What trivial complaints you try to invent, my dearest Crapford.<br />You're mad as hell because I challenged you to produce the entire claimed order, verbatim? This is customary to ask for in a discussion - merely [alleged] extracts are worth very little in the academic world, but you already know this so well.<br />I can only conclude that you are unable to produce what I have asked for.<br /><br />I should like to note that its certainly not ‘anti-semitic’ to make clear that a person is Jewish, nor is it ‘anti-semitic’ to have doubts - certainly in the case of this entire matter, I'll come out and say that I won't believe it until the order is produced [in verbatim]. While we're at it, let's see some verifiable excavations of the alleged victims you have claimed. Where can I read this report? Surely it must exist.<br />This Hurenco$t is like a really poor AMD paper-launch, but AMD generally produce something in the end - which is more than one can say about your beloved Hurenco$t, Kookford.<br /><br />Yeah I compared you to the HC-Blowhard RoboCop. Hardly a compliment in any way you look at it. That's like getting spat in the face, Crackford.<br />For you information I do know history and I read mainstream Hurenco$t works as frequently as time allows me. I hope this answer makes that clear.<br />As for Terry, I am not about to list any of the works I've read now and in the past. If you need jerk off material I suggest you Google for it:<br />https://www.google.dk/search?num=10&hl=dk&site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1680&bih=912&q=Dead+Jews+Bergen-Belsen&oq=Dead+Jews+Bergen-Belsen<br /><br />Merry Hurencaust to you all!<br /><br />FRANZFranz Holtzhäuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516070246513838626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-85497268204515761602012-12-26T03:53:35.666+00:002012-12-26T03:53:35.666+00:00What is most revealing is how Assholehauser has sh...What is most revealing is how Assholehauser has shown us, convincingly, that a) he knows nothing about this topic and b) he probably has never read a serious book on the Holocaust. None of which stops him from filling the air with his anti-semitic "doubts" here. <br /><br />Recall that Assholehauser started out noisily asserting that all "we" have regarding Nazi birth policy in occupied Lithuania is Tory's diary entry. With so much that we have - listed above, and now with even more shared by Nick, and all this stuff that "we" have contradicting his first reply - k0nsl is now fussing over the font in which "we" have shown him the words for the German order and the paragraph formatting we will present the other documents on the order's repercussions. Or might as well be. <br /><br />No sentient being will take this desperation of the lost cause seriously. <br /><br />Stupid is as stupid does, and Assholehauser is nothing if not stupid. He has bupkis: he still has yet to offer even a word of explanation for why he doubts Tory or any of the other sources mentioned in the blog post or replies to his "Tory was a Jew" crap. He might as well doubt the nose on his face. Which would be just as interesting as the "objections" he has offered here. Dumb fuck. <br /><br /> And, I now must thank the moron for praising me by comparing me to Roberto Muehlenkamp. <br /><br />On the other hand, Assholehauser said he was off, and yet he is back saying nothing and wasting good words to say it. k0nsl has always been an especially dim bulb in the dark sewer of denial. Oh well.Statistical Mechanichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00692815834132828535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-4016988919861609152012-12-26T03:48:22.516+00:002012-12-26T03:48:22.516+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Statistical Mechanichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00692815834132828535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-32646687649825916002012-12-26T01:51:32.870+00:002012-12-26T01:51:32.870+00:00Nicholas Terry:
I never asked for 'verbatim q...Nicholas Terry:<br /><br />I never asked for 'verbatim quotes'.<br /><br />Show the actual claimed order, in verbatim.<br /><br />I note this is the second time you're avoiding to answer my request.<br /><br />This is of course, as I say, most revealing.<br /><br />FRANZFranz Holtzhäuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516070246513838626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-69739318914549455072012-12-26T00:48:59.306+00:002012-12-26T00:48:59.306+00:00Assholehauser, you were already given verbatim quo...Assholehauser, you were already given verbatim quotes from the order. Look, here they are again:<br /><br />"Pregnancies and births in the ghetto are prohibited; pregnancies have to be terminated; pregnant women will be shot." <br /><br />"According to an order from the organs of authority, giving birth in the ghetto is forbidden under penalty of death. Every pregnancy must be terminated." <br /><br />What possible further detail could be in those sources that would contradict the clearly expressed edict?<br /><br />You were already given precise references to a book should you actually care about this enough to fuss over it further. Look at comment #2. <br /><br />Or look up Christoph Dieckmann's Deutsche Besatzungspolitik in Litauen 1941-1944, pp.1098-1099, which discusses the exact same development with the exact same sources and then shows using monthly reports of the health department that there were (a) no more babies born in the Kovno ghetto after September 1942 and (b) quite a few operations in the ghetto hospital were abortions.<br /><br />We don't expect you to grasp that Kovno was by 1942 a work-ghetto with a fraction of its former population, who had been murdered in 1941, because you are, quite frankly, a complete moron with zero grasp of what the actual history says. Should you ever wish to correct this gaping deficit in your comprehension of your little hobby-horse, you might actually have to read something.<br /><br />Oh, and moron, you never did answer my question asking what conventional history book you've ever read about the Holocaust. We'll assume until contradicted that the answer is 'none'. Nicholas Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14852758011968360596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24597325.post-82156610050192206082012-12-26T00:35:17.054+00:002012-12-26T00:35:17.054+00:00Clark Kentford has trouble understanding something...Clark Kentford has trouble understanding something so simple as my request which was me asking for the 'actual order' in verbatim text.<br />You posted an alleged quote which is claimed to be [a select bit] from this alleged order.<br />Now Clark Kentford says he posted what I requested of him – but that's untrue, what the 'Superman of Hurenco$t' actually posted was merely an extract from a quote alleged to have been originating from the order which Crapford stake his Belief in.<br /><br />Now this Clark Kent numbnut is imitating the behaviour most often exhibited by the 'Hurenco$t Blowhard', Roberto Muehlenkamp – this tactic of his will naturally not advance his argumentation any further.<br />But if Clerkford want's to believe in diary stories and what a Jewish Council in Kovno says, well, I guess that's his choice.<br /><br />I'd still like to see the entire claimed order, in verbatim - <i>not a hack-quote from somebody else claiming more things...</i><br /><br />FRANZFranz Holtzhäuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516070246513838626noreply@blogger.com